How desperate are you for a new Trek TV series?

[-Brett-]

Desperate? Not really desperate... But I do long to turn the TV on and see a new Star Trek series.

Although I know what you mean (and share your view), I can do this now.

Thank God for DVD's.

You can do this too, yes?

Don't want to speak for OpenMaw, but ...

Desperate? Not really desperate... But I do long to turn the TV on and see a new Star Trek series.

No, you really can't do this now.

As for myself, whenever I get it into my head that I miss Star Trek, I just remember Voyager and Enterprise, and accept the fact that a revival would almost certainly be garbage.

An entirely new spaceships and aliens style sci-fi series with a similar premise to Star Trek but not related in any way? Sure, that I could go for.

 

[Nightdiamond]

I don't think Trek can be viable on TV anymore. SciFi of any sort was always a niche market, but now Trek would have to be up against reality shows that cost nothing to produce. Having an expensive scripted show appealing to only a niche market would not work economically.

I don't know. Sure, reality shows are cheaper than almost any scripted drama, but it's not as though TV has abandoned dramas completely--and they're still throwing plenty of money at offbeat, expensive shows like Once Upon a Time, Black Sails, The Vikings, Penny Dreadful, Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, The Americans, Sleepy Hollow, and Dracula . . . none of which are exactly standard-issue cop, lawyer, or medical dramas.

I mean, only a few years ago, a zombie series based on an indy comic book would have sounded about as "niche" as you could possibly get . . . .

The ironic thing is that while off beat sci fi and fantasy shows are popular now, they'll provide the most competion against a new Trek show.

They have little problems showing graphic nudity, sex, violence and adult language, and still get good ratings and popularity.

If Trek follows the cookie cutter mold and show lightweight style drama and sci fi, is it going to fit in?

Some fans feel Trek is still avoiding hard edged topics and themes.

Will it survive on broadcast TV... if it goes to cable will it survive there, when its going against all these shows that have taken the gloves off?

 

[Captain Kathryn]

I really want it...however I don't want it unless it's done right. And no remakes of classics like TNG or DS9 etc. I want a new crew in either the late 24th / early 25th century. I think it would be nice to have guests on playing their characters in their older age like Picard, Janeway, Sisko, Data, etc...but AS GUESTS not the main characters. It would be interesting to see the former cast members interacting with a new crew. The veteran Trek actors could portray their characters as the age they are in the novels currently which is older than their original age in the shows' original runs.

That said, I am enjoying the novels and there are SO MANY of them so I will be busy for a while with those.

 

[RAMA]

One thing I haven't really discussed before. I DO love tech...but I feel to the general public, the technobabble in Trek was hurting viewership. JJ ABrams ditched most of it, even to the point of it being an aside in the dialogue and quickly talked over (as with the transporting of Spock from the volcano). If they can do it in a successful movie, a new TV show should be able to minimize it too.

RAMA

 

[Captain Kathryn]

Although I enjoyed the JJ movies, I wouldn't want the new series to be done in that style. It's fine for a movie, but I would get so sick of it if it were like that on a series.

I would prefer DS9/VOY era style.

 

[RAMA]

I was alright for a while but in the past 6 months after going through each series about twice now, I'm getting a little antsy for something new. I would prefer a continuation of the prime timeline or a concurant series within the 24th century

I think this is the answer! There has to be a critical mass where fans and casual interested parties are tired of the admittedly huge pool of episodes and want something new. I kind of think it's slowly started to happen now and will come about by 2016.

 

[Captain Kathryn]

I was alright for a while but in the past 6 months after going through each series about twice now, I'm getting a little antsy for something new. I would prefer a continuation of the prime timeline or a concurant series within the 24th century

Same here.

I don't want ANY remakes. Just continue it!

 

[Jedi_Master]

Time to sex up the television franchise with popcorn sensibilities.

Scandal, The Blacklist, NCIS, Homeland, some of the most popular scripted show on TV today. Which of them fit the profile of sexy popcorn? In the top ten, top twenty, which fits?

NCIS fits the sexy popcorn profile. Might be fun to have a Trek show that can attract that kind of attention.

 

[RAMA]

Although I enjoyed the JJ movies, I wouldn't want the new series to be done in that style. It's fine for a movie, but I would get so sick of it if it were like that on a series.

I would prefer DS9/VOY era style.

I didn't say it had to be or replicate JJTrek, only in one respect...well two: the new show can have themes and ideas, but should revolve around adventure.

RAMA

 

[Captain Kathryn]

Eh, I don't want JJTrek on TV. It would get old too fast for me. I want DS9 style, but continuing the 24th Century prime timeline.

 

[BillJ]

If Trek follows the cookie cutter mold and show lightweight style drama and sci fi, is it going to fit in?

Some fans feel Trek is still avoiding hard edged topics and themes.

I don't have an issue with hard edged topics and themes, but if the characters are unlikeable and the stories aren't fun, I'll be tuning out in a hurry.

I would prefer DS9/VOY era style.

Might as well cancel it now.

 

[Captain Kathryn]

I would prefer DS9/VOY era style.

Might as well cancel it now.

I know...but I want it!

Sadface...

 

[BillJ]

I would prefer DS9/VOY era style.

Might as well cancel it now.

I know...but I want it!

Sadface...

You're lucky though. Your favorite series has about a hundred more episodes than mine.

 

[Greg Cox]

I don't think Trek can be viable on TV anymore. SciFi of any sort was always a niche market, but now Trek would have to be up against reality shows that cost nothing to produce. Having an expensive scripted show appealing to only a niche market would not work economically.

I don't know. Sure, reality shows are cheaper than almost any scripted drama, but it's not as though TV has abandoned dramas completely--and they're still throwing plenty of money at offbeat, expensive shows like Once Upon a Time, Black Sails, The Vikings, Penny Dreadful, Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, The Americans, Sleepy Hollow, and Dracula . . . none of which are exactly standard-issue cop, lawyer, or medical dramas.

I mean, only a few years ago, a zombie series based on an indy comic book would have sounded about as "niche" as you could possibly get . . . .

The ironic thing is that while off beat sci fi and fantasy shows are popular now, they'll provide the most competion against a new Trek show.

Well, I don't think Trek can ever count on being the only game in town anymore, which is not necessarily a bad thing. A bit of healthy competition could keep any new series from getting complacent and just giving us the same old, same old one more time.

 

[Jedi_Master]

I don't know. Sure, reality shows are cheaper than almost any scripted drama, but it's not as though TV has abandoned dramas completely--and they're still throwing plenty of money at offbeat, expensive shows like Once Upon a Time, Black Sails, The Vikings, Penny Dreadful, Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, The Americans, Sleepy Hollow, and Dracula . . . none of which are exactly standard-issue cop, lawyer, or medical dramas.

I mean, only a few years ago, a zombie series based on an indy comic book would have sounded about as "niche" as you could possibly get . . . .

The ironic thing is that while off beat sci fi and fantasy shows are popular now, they'll provide the most competion against a new Trek show.

Well, I don't think Trek can ever count on being the only game in town anymore, which is not necessarily a bad thing. A bit of healthy competition could keep any new series from getting complacent and just giving us the same old, same old one more time.

I think that any new Trek series would have to be sharply produced, smartly written, and have great acting talent to survive in the modern TV world. It would need a big name producer or actor(s) to get the attention, and I honestly think a studio like Netflix to spend the cash and release the episodes en masse. I would prefer it to be post ENT and pre TOS. It would be fun to rewrite canon and watch the fanboys heads explode, plus I think the story of the Federation's early years has amazing creative potential.

 

[Nightdiamond]

I don't have an issue with hard edged topics and themes, but if the characters are unlikeable and the stories aren't fun, I'll be tuning out in a hurry.

I remember Garret Wang claimed that on Voyager, the producers wanted the human characters to be really bland so the aliens would stand out.

If that's true, I always noticed when watching Voyager, I thought that the the characters should be interesting, they seem like they should be fun and yet, something was always off.

I would prefer DS9/VOY era style.

Might as well cancel it now.

I don't know-- I liked DS9's style --they were the first to break away from the mold and add more action and hard edge.

For Voyager, it's hard to classify it--I watched it, but it seemed bland at times.

Well, I don't think Trek can ever count on being the only game in town anymore, which is not necessarily a bad thing. A bit of healthy competition could keep any new series from getting complacent and just giving us the same old, same old one more time.

Come to think of it, Trek didn't have any real competition by the time Voyager and Enterprise aired. so you wonder if it was complacency that hurt the franchise.

People are used to seeing a lot more edgier, quirkier stuff now.

Even Nu Trek has frequent cussing, and Kirk looking like he was just in a threesome scene.

In some ways when the franchise was getting weak, it looked like Trek was trying to change it image a little.


I swear, in Nemesis it seemed like they wee trying to be more edgier by having things like dune buggy chases and it came off so weird looking

 

[Greg Cox]

Well, I don't think Trek can ever count on being the only game in town anymore, which is not necessarily a bad thing. A bit of healthy competition could keep any new series from getting complacent and just giving us the same old, same old one more time.

Come to think of it, Trek didn't have any real competition by the time Voyager and Enterprise aired. so you wonder if it was complacency that hurt the franchise.

Voyager had plenty of competition: X-Files, Buffy, Xena, etc. But instead of trying to keep up with the times, it was content to mimic TNG's formula and pacing, so that it sometimes seemed old-fashioned compared to the more cutting-edge genre shows of the time.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

It would be SO COOL to be discussing new Trek EP BY EP again on the BBS

 

[Captain Kathryn]

Might as well cancel it now.

I know...but I want it!

Sadface...

You're lucky though. Your favorite series has about a hundred more episodes than mine.

Voyager is my fave, but DS9 is close. Im assuming yours is TOS? Its a shame it got cancelled so soon.

For a new series though, I would prefer DS9-style.

 

[Warped9]

Considering how the bar has gotten so low on television anything with even a modicum of creativity must have a helluva time getting aired.