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If they made a 25th century TV series, would you watch it?

If they made a 25th century TV series, would you watch it?


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I'd watch it religiously.

Why do people never put "I don't know" as an answer for these polls?

Quite. Once upon a time I'd have said religiously, but Enterprise allowed me to break free. Part of me enjoys the freedom.
I did stop watching ENT a little more than half-way during its second season (first time I ever walked away from a Trek series). I kept tabs on it from this site and others, and came back for the fourth season.

I do think ENT was a result of creator fatigue and interference from network/studio execs. I tend to think had the show had a fifth season, it would have become even better.
I think it was to pad out dialogue.

I remember seeing some early script drafts from either TNG or VOY in which writers would write dialogue that would features parts referred to simply as [TECH] that would be later filled in with technobabble by someone else.

No point in creating your own, if it disagreed with established jargon, the fans would only pick it apart. Let someone else do it, the someone else gets the blame :D
I think it had more to do with the writers not really being technobabble experts, but using [TECH] as a placeholder for some device or whatever our heroes would need to get the job done. It may have been the show's technical consultant(s) who had to invent something "future tech-sounding" to fill in that blank in a script.
 
A spinoff, by definition, is more of the same. Only the names and faces are different. Only half-hearted cosmetic change is permitted, so as not to offend fans of the original. Unfortunately, by the time you get to your third or fourth spinoff, fans of the original are bored out of their minds. A reboot, at least, makes some effort to shake out the cobwebs and get the engine revving again.


I think the reason Enterprise struggled was that people wanted to go further into the future rather than have a prequel to the TOS.

Enterprise struggled because it wasn't very good. It started out with twelve-million viewers and was at less than two million a week when the series ended.

Can't disagree with the viewing figures which is a shame as I thought it got better in the 3rd, 4th series. DS9 & Voyager also took a few seasons to really get going.


Les Moonves said the fourth season nosedived in the ratings because it was "hip deep in canon". I'm not anticipating a series devoted to the old canon from him. Actually, I'm not anticipating a series at all.
 
They had just done three series that had Klingon characters and many, many stories dealing with Klingons and yet Enterprise felt the need to go to that well one more time.

They did deal with the Andorians (who hadn't been seen in TNG & DS9) and they introduced a new race called the Zindi, in addition to the Denoublans, the Suliban and the Na'khul. Mistakes aside, that was doing something new, even if people didn't like them.

Not only technobabble is a real turn off, the production values of Berman trek left much to be desired, no panache, nothing of distinction and things were not much better even on the big screen with Nemesis where production budgets were not as restraint. Compared to other TV shows and movies of the time, Trek was trounced.

According to you. And yet, most fans who hate the movies want the Bermangaverse back, technobabble included. If people can stand to hear legalese and very graphic medibabble on the CSI shows, House, ER, and Chicago Hope, then they can stand to hear technobabble that's (IMHO) only slightly removed from what most people deal with now in their jobs.

As for the supposedly crappy design; considering that said design is the standard used in Star Trek Online and is still the basis of most fan art of Deviant Art, I'd say that your assertion's been disproved.
 
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A spinoff, by definition, is more of the same. Only the names and faces are different.
Are you really saying that TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT were all the same as TOS and had the same kind of characters?
Only half-hearted cosmetic change is permitted, so as not to offend fans of the original. Unfortunately, by the time you get to your third or fourth spinoff, fans of the original are bored out of their minds.
I have to disagree with this, because if it was the case then people would still be bored with Trek and Star Trek XI would have been a flop and there wouldn't have been an even more successful Star Trek XII.
A reboot, at least, makes some effort to shake out the cobwebs and get the engine revving again.
The same thing happens with every new Trek series. But what sustains the commercial popularity of any TV show depends on a number of factors from its writing, to its acting, to its overall appeal, to even its timing (being made at the right time).
Enterprise struggled because it wasn't very good. It started out with twelve-million viewers and was at less than two million a week when the series ended.

Can't disagree with the viewing figures which is a shame as I thought it got better in the 3rd, 4th series. DS9 & Voyager also took a few seasons to really get going.


Les Moonves said the fourth season nosedived in the ratings because it was "hip deep in canon".
Really?

Eh, I have my doubts he actually said that.
 
Les Moonves said the fourth season nosedived in the ratings because it was "hip deep in canon". I'm not anticipating a series devoted to the old canon from him. Actually, I'm not anticipating a series at all.

There's no way in hell Moonves would have ever said something like that. He wouldn't have known the word "canon" from the thing that shoots cannonballs. What's your source for this?

This sounds more like the typical "Moonves hates Star Trek and all sci-fi" BS that trufans tend to frequently spout, with no basis in reality. Moonves doesn't hate Star Trek and sci-fi. He hates shows that are expensive to produce and at the same time give little payoff in ratings. If Star trek were as cheap to produce as reality show schlock and garnered the same ratings as said reality show, we'd have a new Trek series tomorrow.
 
Les Moonves said the fourth season nosedived in the ratings because it was "hip deep in canon". I'm not anticipating a series devoted to the old canon from him. Actually, I'm not anticipating a series at all.

There's no way in hell Moonves would have ever said something like that. He wouldn't have known the word "canon" from the thing that shoots cannonballs. What's your source for this?

This sounds more like the typical "Moonves hates Star Trek and all sci-fi" BS that trufans tend to frequently spout, with no basis in reality. Moonves doesn't hate Star Trek and sci-fi. He hates shows that are expensive to produce and at the same time give little payoff in ratings. If Star trek were as cheap to produce as reality show schlock and garnered the same ratings as said reality show, we'd have a new Trek series tomorrow.
I totally agree on all points.
 
I kinda want to close the poll at 100. Can modders do that?

For a census.
 
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I'd try it, if I liked it I'd continue. If I didn't, I'd watch something else.
 
I'd try it. If it starts with Star Trek then It's usually all right. Enterprise made me gag and yell at the TV so I shunned it forever and don't consider it Star Trek. That's just my opinion of course but that won't ever change. So if it's anything similar to Enterprise I would be very unhappy and stop after five minutes or less.
 
I'd try it. If it starts with Star Trek then It's usually all right. Enterprise made me gag and yell at the TV so I shunned it forever and don't consider it Star Trek. That's just my opinion of course but that won't ever change. So if it's anything similar to Enterprise I would be very unhappy and stop after five minutes or less.
What in your estimation makes Enterprise any less Star Trek than the other series? I never thought it was all that great either (had its moments), nor were the early seasons really my cup of tea, but in the end it was still about the intrepid crew of the Starship Enterprise seeking out new life and civilizations.

And to be fair, the last season was probably the most TOS-like of any season of any series since season 2 of TOS.

Honestly, if there is ever a new series, whether it be in prime-verse or nuverse (in any century), the tone and scope of Season 4 ENT is what TPTB should strive for.
 
I would watchit if it has good, likeable characters, a good story and is not screwing up established Trek history.
 
If Kirk and his crew are not in it, then it is a waste of time.

May aswell create a new sci fi show in its own right rather than slap 'Star Trek' on the opening credits.
 
Id MUCH prefer a 25th century show, than ANYTHING, movie, show, puppet show, set in the NuTrek universe.

With one exception:

Lets see a Federation dealing with the destruction of Romulus, and refugees from the fragmenting empire.

Kirk and Spock are dead. DEAL WITH IT.
 
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