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New Spider-Man cartoon: Ultimate Spider-Man

I didn't realize this thread was here; I was waiting for someone to start it. Anyway, the show's not bad, and the animation is often very good. The voice work is pretty good too. I'm not crazy about the musical style; Kevin Manthei can do very good work, but the hard-rock (or whatever) style that he uses on this and Generator Rex isn't to my taste. The gag cutaways are often funny, but sometimes they overdo it.

So far it's doing a decent job balancing the familiar Spidey story and characters with the SHIELD/team premise, but it seems that doing both at once leaves them both a little underdeveloped. I wish the show would do more with Jameson than just have him ranting on giant video screens everywhere, which is kind of strange in itself. And I'd like to get to know the teen heroes better too, aside from Nova, who's just annoying.

What strikes me about Agent Coulson's animation debut is that this version of Coulson, though modelled on and voiced by Clark Gregg, is different from the live-action version. Movie Coulson is cool and collected with a deadpan wit, while USM Coulson is more of a stern, humorless authority figure and the butt of humor.
 
I'm surprised no one started a discussion/review thread either since this was meant for news. I don't get the channel it comes out on here in Canada so I've not been able to watch it. I'm guessing with the Jonah thing they've tried to shoehorn in his Mayor arc without him being mayor. Jonah would probably buy access to all the screens in the city so he could push his anti-Spider-Man propaganda. Although that is just a guess since I haven't seen it yet.
 
It's highly entertaining.

I wish it would a stop splitting the difference dramatically, leave out the traditional Spidey Soap Opera, and go completely in the gonzo, Teen-titans-Go! direction.
 
I was very impressed by their explanation of how Venom could exist; it's the most elegant explanation I've seen so far. No aliens; no convoluted "cure for cancer" body suit; it's just the simplicity of someone stealing's Spidey's blood in order to mass produce his powers but the experiment creates something else. It's a great way to fit it into Spider-man's world without having to add in extra baggage.
 
i've enjoyed the first few episodes. i really like the Teen Titans/Batman Brave and the Bold feel this show has. Jetpack Spidey and blahblah Fury were hilarious.
 
TemporalFlux said:
I was very impressed by their explanation of how Venom could exist; it's the most elegant explanation I've seen so far. No aliens; no convoluted "cure for cancer" body suit; it's just the simplicity of someone stealing's Spidey's blood in order to mass produce his powers but the experiment creates something else. It's a great way to fit it into Spider-man's world without having to add in extra baggage.
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Yes, except for two things. One was the way it seemed to take Octavius about ten seconds and three steps to perform this incredibly intricate work of genetic engineering; that could've been storyboarded/directed a bit better. The other was, if Octavius has a sample of Spidey's blood now, doesn't that mean he can find out who Spidey is? Well, I doubt that Peter Parker's DNA is on file, since he's not a felon, but if Osborn knows that Spidey is someone who attends Midtown High, he could arrange to collect DNA samples of the students and faculty.

Or, this being Marvel, Ock could probably use the blood to create a Spider-Man clone -- and that never ends well.

But yeah, it was an interesting alternative take on Venom, having it be pure symbiote with no Eddie Brock (though they did allude to Flash being Venom in the current comics). It let them do a lot of variant venoms, modifications of the various heroes it possessed, and it didn't take on the familiar form until it possessed Spidey, which makes sense. (I think the only one it didn't take over was White Tiger, and I'd been thinking that was because her costume didn't expose any of her skin, but then, neither does Spidey's.)
 
Christopher said:
What strikes me about Agent Coulson's animation debut is that this version of Coulson, though modelled on and voiced by Clark Gregg, is different from the live-action version. Movie Coulson is cool and collected with a deadpan wit, while USM Coulson is more of a stern, humorless authority figure and the butt of humor.
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Interesting that he'd make his animated debut with a character not currently connected to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
 
O'Dib said:
No one's seen this since it's come out? Up to like 4 episodes already.
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I've read comments where people love it or hate it with a passion.

Most comments revolve around this series being aimed at kids with ADHD.



Episode 3 was all over the place. There's so much going on with the gags

There's no time to take things slow.

"Okay they're in detention. Okay now they're doing a training exercise with cheesy video game effects"
 
Captain Craig said:
Interesting that he'd make his animated debut with a character not currently connected to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
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Well, that's only because Sony still has the movie rights to Spidey. Marvel would love to get back the rights to all their characters and make their own Spidey and FF and Daredevil and X-Men films, and would probably like to tie them all together. They can't do that in the movies, but they're free to do it on TV, where they have all the rights (as far as I know). So we get a Spidey series with guest appearances from SHIELD characters and plenty of references to Iron Man and Thor and the like, and Iron Man is actually appearing in the next episode.
 
Yes Marvel has the animated rights to all of these characters so they can use them in their animated series. Live action is a different matter though. I believe the film rights also include live action series, I maybe wrong about this. It's been a while since I've looked up what and who and how is owned by what lol.
 
Let's see, what live-action TV projects does Marvel have in development right now? I know Guillermo del Toro is developing a Hulk series, and I'd heard an Alias adaptation was in the works under the title AKA Jessica Jones. Ah, yes, and there's also The Punisher, Mockingbird, and Cloak and Dagger in the development slate.

So there aren't any properties there whose movie rights are held by another studio, since Marvel got the Punisher rights back a couple of years ago. Although Cloak and Dagger are mutants, so is there a chance they could fall under the X-Men license?
 
Wouldn't they also be avoiding putting major franchises on TV because of the whole fatigue thing?
 
I doubt that would be a consideration. "Cloak and Dagger" was being developed by ABC so that would indicate that Fox does not hold the rights to these characters.
 
O'Dib said:
Wouldn't they also be avoiding putting major franchises on TV because of the whole fatigue thing?
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Well, I'd say The Incredible Hulk is definitely a major franchise, and so is The Punisher to an extent. So they're not avoiding major franchises. As for the "fatigue thing," that's not a proven fact or law, just something some pundits propose as a reason for the decline of various franchises. We've seen in other cases, such as Star Trek and the Spider-Man and X-Men films, that studios don't let the perception of "franchise fatigue" prevent them from continuing a franchise if they have a business incentive for doing so (which, in those cases, was to put out movies before their licenses expired so that they could hold onto the rights).
 
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