Big Bang Theory, yes or no?

[Skywalker]

Yeah, it's kind of weird. It became successful because it was something different (sort of)--but hey, now that it's successful, let's make it just like everything else!

 

[scnj]

Don't forget though, part of it is the characters growing and evolving. Given that the point of the show was these antisocial geek characters learning how to function better socially from their streetwise neighbour, it feels like a natural evolution of the theme.

 

[jep316]

I like the addition of Amy and Bernadette as Penny's posse they just need Raj to get a steady girl to join and even the sides.

 

[stj]

No, it's not certain which team Raj is playing on.
The idea that Raj is gay isn't subtext, it's text.

Incidentally, was this episode written before Quinto came out? Because "suck it, Quinto" is already to be read as "it"=my dick. I think Parsons himself is gay in real life too, which pushes that envelope even more. (Parsons played gay in a bit part in a movie, which I expect was typecasting from life.)

This last episode was one of the crassest Big Bang has ever done, overall.

 

[Gojira]

Don't forget though, part of it is the characters growing and evolving. Given that the point of the show was these antisocial geek characters learning how to function better socially from their streetwise neighbour, it feels like a natural evolution of the theme.

I am all for the show evolving I just hate to see them move away from their geeky roots.

 

[Sky]

Don't forget though, part of it is the characters growing and evolving. Given that the point of the show was these antisocial geek characters learning how to function better socially from their streetwise neighbour, it feels like a natural evolution of the theme.

I am all for the show evolving I just hate to see them move away from their geeky roots.

Exactly. My geeky group of friends and me are all married now (and did a fair bit of dating before finding our respective husbands and wives) but that does not mean that we're not geeks anymore. We're just happier geeks.

 

[Harvey]

Incidentally, was this episode written before Quinto came out?

A Google search shows a dozen articles from October 16, 2011 indicating that Quinto had come out. Three months later, I think it's pretty likely that this episode was written after that information was public.

 

[scnj]

Don't forget though, part of it is the characters growing and evolving. Given that the point of the show was these antisocial geek characters learning how to function better socially from their streetwise neighbour, it feels like a natural evolution of the theme.

I am all for the show evolving I just hate to see them move away from their geeky roots.

The geeky stuff is still there though. I mean, how many shows would feature a plotline devoted to a game of Catan? The show opening up to other forms of humour has happened alongside the characters discovering new things in their lives.

I'll always be a geek, and I'll always love geeky things, but I have other interests and other things to talk about and do with my friends. Asking the show to remain 100% geeky is the same as asking the characters to do the same, and that wouldn't make for an interesting overall arc in my opinion.

 

[1001001]

Don't forget though, part of it is the characters growing and evolving. Given that the point of the show was these antisocial geek characters learning how to function better socially from their streetwise neighbour, it feels like a natural evolution of the theme.

I am all for the show evolving I just hate to see them move away from their geeky roots.

The geeky stuff is still there though. I mean, how many shows would feature a plotline devoted to a game of Catan? The show opening up to other forms of humour has happened alongside the characters discovering new things in their lives.

I'll always be a geek, and I'll always love geeky things, but I have other interests and other things to talk about and do with my friends. Asking the show to remain 100% geeky is the same as asking the characters to do the same, and that wouldn't make for an interesting overall arc in my opinion.

The last episode had a whole thing about Sheldon's cardboard Spock!



I think the Geek is still there.

 

[Gojira]

Don't forget though, part of it is the characters growing and evolving. Given that the point of the show was these antisocial geek characters learning how to function better socially from their streetwise neighbour, it feels like a natural evolution of the theme.

I am all for the show evolving I just hate to see them move away from their geeky roots.

The geeky stuff is still there though. I mean, how many shows would feature a plotline devoted to a game of Catan? The show opening up to other forms of humour has happened alongside the characters discovering new things in their lives.

I'll always be a geek, and I'll always love geeky things, but I have other interests and other things to talk about and do with my friends. Asking the show to remain 100% geeky is the same as asking the characters to do the same, and that wouldn't make for an interesting overall arc in my opinion.

I think it is still there I just don't think it is there as much as it was in the first couple of Seasons. In the first couples of seasons even Leonard wove science and other "nerd" references into his conversations but in the last couple of seasons that has pretty much disappeared for him.

 

[Neroon]

Yeah, it's kind of becoming "Friends - now with nerds!" Especially with the situation they have now that the girls hang out in Penny's apartment and the boys in Leonard & Sheldon's.

It's sad. First you have something a bit different. People notice and like it. And because people like it it gets transformed into something ordinary so that even more people would like it.

That's a pretty close description of how I look at the show, now. I still enjoy it. It still provides a good touchstone with my sons, and I still find it overall quite funny. But maybe not quite as miuch as it once did, and I think you hit upon why.

 

[Lumi]

I love it.

A lot of people will say that Sheldon's character is exaggerated. Unrealistic. "Nobody is like that".

That's not true at all.

Everyone I know that watches it, loves to point out how much like him I am in certain areas. I may not be a robot with no feelings and no need for relationships. But... the germophobe part of him. The scene in the ER when Howard's mother finds out he's engaged to Bernadette, and has a heart attack/breaks Howard's arm?: Sheldon asks someone to go to the bathroom with him so they can flush the toilet, open doors for him, etc. That is me. He holds a shirt over his face to block germs in the air (not that it probably does anything)... that is me. I also have someone else squirt the antibacterial gel on my hands because I won't touch the pump. They laugh at me. -_-

Anyway, yes. BBT =

 

[FPAlpha]

No, it's not certain which team Raj is playing on.
The idea that Raj is gay isn't subtext, it's text.

Incidentally, was this episode written before Quinto came out? Because "suck it, Quinto" is already to be read as "it"=my dick. I think Parsons himself is gay in real life too, which pushes that envelope even more. (Parsons played gay in a bit part in a movie, which I expect was typecasting from life.)

This last episode was one of the crassest Big Bang has ever done, overall.

I think you are way overthinking it with this one.. they play with the idea of Raj being gay to get some laughs and they make fun of the opinionated way SF fans can sometimes be about their favorite movies/characters.. that's all.

 

[nightwind1]

I like the addition of Amy and Bernadette as Penny's posse they just need Raj to get a steady girl to join and even the sides.

Nah, he's too much in love with Howard.

 

[DS9Continuing]

No, it's not certain which team Raj is playing on.
The idea that Raj is gay isn't subtext, it's text.

I don't think Raj is intended to be gay. Hell, he's had more action with girls than the other three put together. He's just "metrosexual". He likes chick-flicks and pot pourri and feels empowered when dressed up as Batgirl, but saying that that makes him gay is just as much stereotyping as anything to do with sci-fi nerds. Feeling and expressing attraction for another man is what makes a man gay, and there's never been the tiniest hint of that.

Incidentally, was this episode written before Quinto came out? Because "suck it, Quinto" is already to be read as "it"=my dick.

Only if you're obsessed with gay jokes.

I think Parsons himself is gay in real life too, which pushes that envelope even more.

Yes, Parsons is gay. In fact he announced his engagement to his long-term boyfriend after winning his last Emmy. (Although I think they since called it off.)

(Parsons played gay in a bit part in a movie, which I expect was typecasting from life.)

Really? Really?

An openly gay actor can only get cast in gay roles? Ever heard of Neil Patrick Harris? Or half the actors in Hollywood for that matter?

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[Holdfast]

I like the addition of Amy and Bernadette as Penny's posse they just need Raj to get a steady girl to join and even the sides.

Amy and Bernadette are excellent additions to the cast. It really does expand the story range a lot to have a group of girls instead of four guys and just one girl.

Then again, I loved Friends and definitely see some resemblances in how the dynamics are evolving in BBT, so maybe I'm biased. I don't think they're losing the basic nerd concept though (I mean, just listen to either Amy or Bernadette!).

 

[Sky]

Maybe what's bothering me is that previously it was about jokes for nerds and now it's more about jokes about nerds?

 

[Mach5]

Maybe what's bothering me is that previously it was about jokes for nerds and now it's more about jokes about nerds?

Exactly.

I really enjoyed the first two seasons, but from there on, the quality just kept declining. Also, Amy shouldn't have appeared in more than 4-5 episodes in total, and Bernadette shouldn't have been introduced in the first place.

Plus, the whole Prya thing was absolute crap.

 

[JD]

No, it's not certain which team Raj is playing on.
The idea that Raj is gay isn't subtext, it's text.

Incidentally, was this episode written before Quinto came out? Because "suck it, Quinto" is already to be read as "it"=my dick. I think Parsons himself is gay in real life too, which pushes that envelope even more. (Parsons played gay in a bit part in a movie, which I expect was typecasting from life.)

This last episode was one of the crassest Big Bang has ever done, overall.

I'm sorry, but I think you're reading way to much into that. I really doubt that was the intention behind that scene.

 

[Mysterion]

Followers of BBT might find one of Titan Designer's latest posts interesting:

http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=5650393&postcount=1060

The concept of Howard in this situation amuses me quite a bit.