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Doctor Who on the wane

And honestly it could be worse (Mark Gatiss could be the show runner :eek:)

And you've just put your finger on why I want Moffat to stick around. Theres the chance he'd decide to hand the reins over to Gatiss. :eek:

Well it wouldn't actually be down to him who he handed the reigns over to, I doubt RTD had much of a say in who followed him. It'd be decided by the BBC. They might go with Gatiss, but I suspect he lacks the production experience. He is a good writer, just not--ironically--when he does Who!!
 
And honestly it could be worse (Mark Gatiss could be the show runner :eek:)

And you've just put your finger on why I want Moffat to stick around. Theres the chance he'd decide to hand the reins over to Gatiss. :eek:

Well it wouldn't actually be down to him who he handed the reigns over to, I doubt RTD had much of a say in who followed him. It'd be decided by the BBC. They might go with Gatiss, but I suspect he lacks the production experience. He is a good writer, just not--ironically--when he does Who!!

Mark Gatiss has production experience on both Sherlock and a couple of his own shows.
 
Doh, yes he did the ghost story mini series that aired the other Christmas. I still don't think I'd be too enamoured with him taking over Who (but on the other hand better him than Chibnall!)
 
I don't know whether Who is on the wane or not, but there doesn't seem to be as much buzz around about it than there was. To be honest, that might just be my own perception. I stopped watching somewhere in the middle of last season. I like Matt Smith, but the rest of it does nothing for me.
 
Doh, yes he did the ghost story mini series that aired the other Christmas. I still don't think I'd be too enamoured with him taking over Who (but on the other hand better him than Chibnall!)

He also did First Men in the Moon. I'd reserve judgement until he was in the job, not that I think it's likely, I mean I would have thought Moffat was a great choice but I'm not sure he is given how I felt about series 6.
 
I was joking about Gratiss but I think he could work out if he had a strong production team backing him and a good script editor (bring back Julie Gardner or Phil Collinson). Honestly a show runner doesn't need to write scripts and it shouldn't be a requirement.

The also need to shanghai more talent from Big Finish. Many of the new writers are really good.
 
I think the series lost something special after they broke up the Doctor-Rose team and subsequently ruined the character of the Master, then David Tennant left and all.
I have given the Smith serie a try but I do prefer the light-heartedness I find of the early Tennant years. Proof in point, I love it so much I asked for (and recieved) a Tenth Doctor Series 2-set graphic novel for Christmas.
 
Its kind of difficult to put into words but I feel safer with the tenth Doctor in his early days then I do with Smith. I don't mean to suggest that the Smith Tardis team don't have their moments, but it's a different kind of dynamic and not one I can easily embrace, sorry. *shurgs*
 
I definitely agree with that, RTD probably got out at the right time, since he had basically used up everything he could for his usually plot devices.

Moffat though, everything just falls flat. I always compare his Good Man bollocks to Journeys End, getting together a bunch of people we don't give a shit about? Imagine they did that in Journeys End, the episode would've ultimately fell flat. That's what the entire run has felt like to me, constantly falling flat due to little build up.

Except Journey's End had four entire seasons (six, in Jack's case) to build up those characters, plus one of the doctor's previous companions from twenty years ago. You don't get the same kind of buildup with just a season and a half of character development.

If River Song had her own spinoff series, it might be a different matter.
 
Maybe but the tenth Doctor was also lightehearted at least before losing Rose. I prefer that approach to Smith as the stories under his name have become a little bit darker.
 
i'd say the 11th was FAR more light-hearted than the emo 9th and 10th.

Agreed. I've been rewatching some of Tennant's early eps, and even as fun as he is, it doesn't come close to how completely nutty and off the wall Smith usually is.

And even in those early stories, Tennant nearly always toned things down once the stories took a serious turn. Smith pretty much plays him the same way all the way through.
 
So DW, aside from a single TV Movie had what 16 years off the air.
Well yes, but no one is claiming that Doctor Who has been on the air for forty-eight years, just that it's forty-eight years old. Whereas whoever was speaking about Red Dwarf seems to have been claiming that the series had been on the air for 25 years, which obviously it hasn't.

Depends how you define it. With worldwide audiences I doubt a year's gone by where it hasn't been shown somewhere. One could argue it's been on air 25 years by default that it's never been off air. He still gets royalty cheques. Its just spent more years out of production than in it.

I definitely agree with that, RTD probably got out at the right time, since he had basically used up everything he could for his usually plot devices.

Moffat though, everything just falls flat. I always compare his Good Man bollocks to Journeys End, getting together a bunch of people we don't give a shit about? Imagine they did that in Journeys End, the episode would've ultimately fell flat. That's what the entire run has felt like to me, constantly falling flat due to little build up.

Except Journey's End had four entire seasons (six, in Jack's case) to build up those characters, plus one of the doctor's previous companions from twenty years ago. You don't get the same kind of buildup with just a season and a half of character development.

And the good Captain was supposed to be in A Good Man Goes to War (rather handy in a battle, not staying dead) but Barrowman was off filming something in the US...
 
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