Doctor Who on the wane
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Well yes, but no one is claiming that Doctor Who has been on the air for forty-eight years, just that it's forty-eight years old. Whereas whoever was speaking about Red Dwarf seems to have been claiming that the series had been on the air for 25 years, which obviously it hasn't.
Actually that to me is the biggest improvement of the last two seasons. I was just beginning to get tired of the perpetual "Earth gets invaded/nearly destroyed by [insert horrifying alien race here]" in the RTD era, not for any particular reason except that "The Stolen Earth" is a hard story to top and anything after that just seems a little anticlimactic (except maybe the return of the Time Lords, but we got that in "The End of time" and where do you go from there?).
I thought the Pandorica Opens conclusion was a fantastic way of turning that whole theme on its head. Since then, I've been pretty happy with just about everything except the Doctor The Widow and the Wardrobe, which started out really strange but improved rapidly once they got into the forest and I was willing to look the other way only because it was a Christmas special and they're kinda ALWAYS like that.
I definitely agree with that, RTD probably got out at the right time, since he had basically used up everything he could for his usually plot devices.
Moffat though, everything just falls flat. I always compare his Good Man bollocks to Journeys End, getting together a bunch of people we don't give a shit about? Imagine they did that in Journeys End, the episode would've ultimately fell flat. That's what the entire run has felt like to me, constantly falling flat due to little build up.
Moffat though, everything just falls flat. I always compare his Good Man bollocks to Journeys End, getting together a bunch of people we don't give a shit about? Imagine they did that in Journeys End, the episode would've ultimately fell flat. That's what the entire run has felt like to me, constantly falling flat due to little build up.
Except many people here did enjoy seeing the people that were brought together in "A Good Man Goes to War" in fact two of those characters were so lauded by fans that they want a spin off series.
Yeah, there's no real secret behind why that was!
You've obviously never met a couple of my ex-girlfriends.
Final numbers are out for the X Mas special (It does not include those watching on iPlayer)...
3rd most watched show of the day and only beaten to top spot by 900,000 viewers. It did score highest share of the entire day and its been watched 700,000 times on IPlayer after 5 days of the original airing.
3rd most watched show of the day and only beaten to top spot by 900,000 viewers. It did score highest share of the entire day and its been watched 700,000 times on IPlayer after 5 days of the original airing.
It should have been every set of eyes in the country, I tell you. There's another 52 million people who could have been watching.
Now if only we could get the BBC to treat it better. I don't recall bloody Eastenders ever getting put on hold for a year and a half.
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That's debatable. Doctor Who was huge in the 60's thanks to the Daleks and the Tom Baker is still the most recognized Doctor. The ratings have also been trending downward but that's to be expected for a long running series. Still Doctor Who (outside of the Marvel Universe) is still the healthiest Sci-Fi franchise.
And honestly it could be worse (Mark Gatiss could be the show runner)
And you've just put your finger on why I want Moffat to stick around. Theres the chance he'd decide to hand the reins over to Gatiss.
I watched this years Xmas special and kind of found my attention drifting to other things, so at the end I wasn't really sure what had happened. But bearing in mind I am a fan of the Nuwho in general I gave it another chance with more success, but it still wasn't particularly gripping.
The last two years have been fine, but RTD & Tennant were a good combo IMO, and Moffat and Smith haven't captured my imagination like they did. Overall it's been too complicated and not enough fun.
I think it's time to change the showrunner and the Doctor. They should break for another year, produce a few specials like they did a few years back, then do the changeover. Keep it fresh.
The last two years have been fine, but RTD & Tennant were a good combo IMO, and Moffat and Smith haven't captured my imagination like they did. Overall it's been too complicated and not enough fun.
I think it's time to change the showrunner and the Doctor. They should break for another year, produce a few specials like they did a few years back, then do the changeover. Keep it fresh.
Personally, I love Smith but don't think Moffat is running it very well. Still some great episodes, I thought series 5 was a good series overall but left too much unanswered, series 6 on the other hand had about 3 good episodes and the arc was shite. Not overly complicated like some seem to think, it's easy enough to follow, just badly done and full of holes. More power to him for trying to do something a bit more complicated but at least do it properly without pulling things out of your arse.
What's wrong with that?And honestly it could be worse (Mark Gatiss could be the show runner
And you've just put your finger on why I want Moffat to stick around. Theres the chance he'd decide to hand the reins over to Gatiss.
