So... this isn't your era of DW but you don't understand how fans can be divided?
Doctor Who on the wane
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So... this isn't your era of DW but you don't understand how fans can be divided?
This happened before and it will happen again. In fact, it happens with every new Doctor.
It's a more rare thing for fans to like every Doctor, or at least it's a rare thing to find such fans on the internet (they probably spend more time enjoying Doctor Who than complaining about it online), IMO.
It's a more rare thing for fans to like every Doctor, or at least it's a rare thing to find such fans on the internet (they probably spend more time enjoying Doctor Who than complaining about it online), IMO.
Yeah, one of the good things about Doctor Who is if you don't like its current iteration, you know it will change eventually, so you can just stop watching and wait and see if you like the next era better. Who would keep watching something even though they don't like it? That's just crazy. 
Amen and amen. It's natural to have preferences and the opposite, but when they take the form of such aggressive in-fighting.....
It's not a matter of liking every Doctor or their particular era. It's more a case of having it turn into such embarrassing pitched battles about what is crap and which Doctor is better and who should be canned and so forth. Having a preference for one particular era is natural and perfectly fine but when it turns into a nasty fight over such unimportant differences, then it seems as if some folks take things way too seriously. Of course, those preferences can come about because of a person's perceiving of a drop in quality. That's fine too, since Doctor Who has long been of such varied and diverse material those preferences are bound to appear.
Maybe it's semantics and maybe the connotations of "divided" are more subtle. However, I feel there is a difference between outright divisions and simply have a tapestry of different preferences.
Yeah, I can say I prefer the 10th Doctor's era to any other but it doesn't mean I'm going to bitch and whine about the 11th Doctor and his era because its still the same character and overall the same show.
I might not enjoy it quite as much as I did or connect on as many levels as I did from series 1-4 but its still the same show in the same universe and I still enjoy watching the damn thing....
Its not as if Moffat came in, gave the Doctor a Gun, a 6 pack, a warship and a cute kid sidekick (not for long, anyway
) and said "enough of this time travelling pacifism, time to kick some ass", the changes are superficial so everyone ready to declare civil war over the tiniest things baffles me.Just sayin'
Have you been on the Internet before, sir?
I'm only on the tenth Doctor right now, but one of the things I like about the series is its variety... I agree with the if-you-don't-like-it-wait-a-minute-and-it'll-change attitude, to be sure.
Hmm, now there's an idea...Its not as if Moffat came in, gave the Doctor a Gun, a 6 pack, a warship and a cute kid sidekick (not for long, anyway
No the ratings system hasn't changed. The live +7 is an internal BBC thing that is new but the one that gets reported is the same as it always was, first overnights and then consolidated same as it's been for years. Now you can argue that with the massive growth of Sky & V+ that the way people are watching TV has changed but the basic system remains the same. If people watched on the night then they are in the overnights, if they watched the recording within 7 days then they are in the consolidated. BBC3 & iplayer viewing isn't being counted in those ratings though the BBC are looking at them.
Well then, it seems your issue isn't with Doctor Who, but rather with Doctor Who fans.
Yet another lame excuse for RTD fanboys to whine and insult fans of the newer Who...
I really wish you guys would just stop watching if you don't like the show.
I really wish you guys would just stop watching if you don't like the show.
And we seem to be of similar mind on this, although to be more precise it's fan behavior. I don't really have any problems with Doctor Who itself. The problem is with the way these differences in opinion often manifest themselves, whether here or at GB or in local clubs etc. Preferring one era or Doctor or writer or what have you is far more common as you've alluded. But to let it cause such strife when this is supposed to be all for fun.... that's what is so ridiculous.
Maybe we need someone to create some kind of "Doctor Who Haters" thread. Or perhaps a show runner hater thread? That way all the disgruntled fans can go there to vent and make their critiques and complaints.
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Me too. I forgot about it until it had aired. That tells me something right there.
That you have short term memory problems?
I have to agree with Trubinator. Just throw out your DVDs and books and go watch Star Trek or something.
There is nothing to show that Doctor Who is "on the wane". But, as someone said earlier, don't let facts get in your way. Yeah, The End of Time may have done better. If you really have to ask why End of Time did better, you didn't watch The End of Time. Or, specifically, the last 10 minutes of The End of Time.
Don't use this as an excuse to bash Moffat. Or nuWho in general. It's a baseless argument.
As for people saying they didn't know it was on. Well that's their lookout. They obviously aren't that interested in Doctor Who, especially since it hasn't registered that on Dec. 25 every year for the past 6 years there has been a Christmas episode. I think it's safe to say a pattern has emerged by now (the only exception is likely to be in 2013 as we'll probably get a Nov. 23 anniversary special in lieu of a Christmas special that year).
Alex
Future fans and critics might not be gushing over SM's run to quite the degree they are now, but I'm pretty sure it'll always be pretty highly regarded.
He might have gone overboard with the craziness and complexity at times, but his DW is still the wittiest and most inventive that it's ever been. I'd be very surprised if a future showrunner could even come close to his level.
There's a big difference between disliking the show and disliking the direction one of the best writers Doctor Who has ever had is taking the show. If Michael Bay had taken over Doctor Who I would stop watching, but the annoying thing about Moffat's run is that it should be the golden age of Doctor Who. It's like if someone went back in time and changed history so that Einstein was a high school dropout turned porn star. You know the guy has the potential to change the world, but he's squandering it.
He generated plenty of interest amongst my friends. Since we are apparently using anecdotal evidence in this discussion of Doctor Who, i guess that means the show is increasingly popular.
