Terra Nova season one 09/26/11:
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Santeria
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I was honestly expecting a remnant of one of their domes (ala Planet of the Apes) to be found, at least until Dino Chow had a huge grin on his face upon its initial reveal. Now it just seems like they're aiming to copy The Land of the Lost. And not the television version either, but the cosmic dumping ground version in the movie.
'Course, I'm still boggled about how they think this is some alternate dimension simply because they didn't find any remnants of that probe in the future. Or why they didn't send any kind of aircraft back, not even remote drones. The mind boggles.
'Course, I'm still boggled about how they think this is some alternate dimension simply because they didn't find any remnants of that probe in the future. Or why they didn't send any kind of aircraft back, not even remote drones. The mind boggles.
That should have occurred to me with Braga being involved, but I was too caught up in doing my best "Stallone running from a fireball in slowmo" screamgrunt at the time to remember. I admire the chutzpah it takes to do it twice in one episode with the same character, as well.
Plus, after a season of being seemingly afraid to show dinosaurs getting killed, dino headshot was pretty hardcore.
Wow, that was certainly padded. I ff'ed about half the show along with the ads. There was no reason that needed to be two hours.
The villains were absolutely painful. Bwahaha corporate/mercenary baddies are just flat-out uninteresting, especially when the actors don't know what to do with them except amp up the cornball factor. The guy who played the dark-haired guy was a horrible actor even by this show's standards, and I was grateful to the T-Rex for chomping him.
The notion that there's a rift in the Badlands that leads to the 16th C or whenever (in the Bermuda Triangle?) leads to the possibility that there are rifts all over the timeline, and you can bop through a series of them to get back to the future. That would be a fun setup for a series that had a different cast of characters, but the notion of dragging a whiny family around like that is unappealing (good idea for a comedy, maybe).
I'm sure it's all theoretical anyway. FOX would have to get pretty desperate to renew a show that can't get out of the low 2's. It's got a couple attention-grabbing sci fi shows coming up for midseason - Alcatraz and Touch - which almost certainly will get decent premiere ratings just from the curiosity factor.
The villains were absolutely painful. Bwahaha corporate/mercenary baddies are just flat-out uninteresting, especially when the actors don't know what to do with them except amp up the cornball factor. The guy who played the dark-haired guy was a horrible actor even by this show's standards, and I was grateful to the T-Rex for chomping him.
The notion that there's a rift in the Badlands that leads to the 16th C or whenever (in the Bermuda Triangle?) leads to the possibility that there are rifts all over the timeline, and you can bop through a series of them to get back to the future. That would be a fun setup for a series that had a different cast of characters, but the notion of dragging a whiny family around like that is unappealing (good idea for a comedy, maybe).
I'm sure it's all theoretical anyway. FOX would have to get pretty desperate to renew a show that can't get out of the low 2's. It's got a couple attention-grabbing sci fi shows coming up for midseason - Alcatraz and Touch - which almost certainly will get decent premiere ratings just from the curiosity factor.
Cmdr_Blop
Lieutenant Commander
Well, considering that TN is basically not OUR Earth, meaning it's technically a parallel Earth in another dimension, such a series would be very similar to Sliders, methinks.
Yes, absolutely. But better this time, because I wasn't screaming at the TV about proto-transporters being able to beam running people.
Not to bicker, but if a transporter has a range of several hundred km as it would have to in order to function from orbit-to-surface, a person running is "at rest". It's like an electron/ion collision in a plasma, the ion's moving so slow in comparison you just treat it as being at rest and it works fine.
The baddies were pretty 1D. And I laughed out loud once I realized how preposterous the idea was that Lucas would somehow be in charge. He's a weesely little physicist. He'd be sidelined the moment he finished building the new terminus and even when it was broken, he wasn't the one fixing it.
I enjoyed it for the camp factor, but anyone else notice what a NINJA Jim Shannon is? I mean his fight scenes are reminiscent of Jack Bauer in 24, only I think Jack takes a hit more often than Shannon. In that bar he handled like 12 guys before finally being overtaken!
Yeah, Lucas was a very lame-ass "main villain." They definitely could have cast that role better. Even if the writing still would be one-dimensional, a really strong actor can sometimes salvage the situation.
This show may have a better chance of renewal than I thought. It's so bad-Star-Trek-y that I totally forgot that Spielberg is behind it, so that would make a huge difference in a renewal decision. International sales are another big factor, I don't have those figures but sci fi usually travels well.
FOX knows that one big problem is the lame writing:
With a truly major revamp that ditches the family and the dull villains, and a re-focus on the idea of various timelines being accessible thru rifts, this series could be worthwhile after all. A Sliders redux would be an improvement over what they're currently doing.
This show may have a better chance of renewal than I thought. It's so bad-Star-Trek-y that I totally forgot that Spielberg is behind it, so that would make a huge difference in a renewal decision. International sales are another big factor, I don't have those figures but sci fi usually travels well.
FOX knows that one big problem is the lame writing:
How about a different writing team altogether? Also, fire all the actors except for Steven Lang and just start over.
With a truly major revamp that ditches the family and the dull villains, and a re-focus on the idea of various timelines being accessible thru rifts, this series could be worthwhile after all. A Sliders redux would be an improvement over what they're currently doing.I still predict Terra Nova will get a 2nd season. It's ratings haven't been great, but they haven't been terrible either. And a lot of the cost rumors are related to building the sets in the pilot. Based on the pattern Fox has taken with Dollhouse and Sarah Connor, I suspect Terra Nova will get a 2nd 13 episode order and air on Friday night. Then the show will be cancelled after season 2.
It what way were these villains, or any other characters on this show, competent to any degree?
Hi AviTrek, look at the link in my other post. Spielberg's clout plus international ratings might be enough to pull through a second season but I would imagine there's going to be some serious changes to shape up the writing for starters. I'd also love to see major cast changes and a change to the premise. Basically, just start over with time travel + dinos + Steven Lang.
You're just trying to confuse me.
Another Stephen Lang was an X-men Villain who helped invent the Sentinels.
Sending colonists back is stupid and selfish.
The money behind this technology has always been of the intent to rape this planet, if not escape.
If escape is what they're really about then there's another super colider still being built back in 2049, that by 2069 will be able to send back a hundred thousand colonists at a time, and who's to say that they're only just building one of those massive bastards?
They, and we have no idea still who "they" are, didn't spend trillions on a vanity project to errect a hippy commune.
Another Stephen Lang was an X-men Villain who helped invent the Sentinels.
Sending colonists back is stupid and selfish.
The money behind this technology has always been of the intent to rape this planet, if not escape.
If escape is what they're really about then there's another super colider still being built back in 2049, that by 2069 will be able to send back a hundred thousand colonists at a time, and who's to say that they're only just building one of those massive bastards?
They, and we have no idea still who "they" are, didn't spend trillions on a vanity project to errect a hippy commune.
Well, it was entertaining, I'll give it that. The action stuff was top notch and there were times I genuinely didn't know how it would turn out. I actually thought the Bad Guys would stay in Terra Nova and Taylor and the Shannon family would be stuck outside. Might have been an interesting development. But oh well.
On the other hand, other parts of the episode were rather predictable. I knew there was going to be a suicide bomber, I knew that when Taylor and Jr hugged, Jr was going to stab Taylor. Also, Lt. Washington's death was one of those "it had to happen eventually" moments.
I was not expecting a dinosaur to rampage through Hope Plaza and damn that was so fucking cool to see.
Evil Corporate Manager was so annoying. Seriously, they took ever spineless weasel that any movie has used for an Evil Coporate Manager and just transplanted that sort of character into this show. With him and Taylor Jr being such obvious black-hat moustache twirlers things got very tiresome very quickly.
Although, the Bad Guys were kind of entertaining when they got really over the top. The tale of what they did to Malcolm's assistant, Evil Manager shooting the brontosaurus or whatever the hell it was called, Taylor Jr going apeshit and firing missiles into the valley definately paint these guys as extreme and evil. Although why is it that whenever we see the evil soldiers, there's always a group of them march-running? What the hell is that all about?
So, predictions on next season, if we get one. I'm going to guess that there must be other time portals that go to different eras. Perhaps we'll meet Nazis in the Badlands? Okay, getting serious again, I'm guessing Mira is eventually going to switch sides and join Taylor, seeing as how she is being screwed over by Phoenix Group.
Although I have been critical of this show, having completed a season I'll admit the show has a certain charm to it and it's definately livened up my Monday nights. I'll definately watch another season if we get one and if we don't, then at least it has a satisfyng enough ending.
On the other hand, other parts of the episode were rather predictable. I knew there was going to be a suicide bomber, I knew that when Taylor and Jr hugged, Jr was going to stab Taylor. Also, Lt. Washington's death was one of those "it had to happen eventually" moments.
I was not expecting a dinosaur to rampage through Hope Plaza and damn that was so fucking cool to see.
Evil Corporate Manager was so annoying. Seriously, they took ever spineless weasel that any movie has used for an Evil Coporate Manager and just transplanted that sort of character into this show. With him and Taylor Jr being such obvious black-hat moustache twirlers things got very tiresome very quickly.
Although, the Bad Guys were kind of entertaining when they got really over the top. The tale of what they did to Malcolm's assistant, Evil Manager shooting the brontosaurus or whatever the hell it was called, Taylor Jr going apeshit and firing missiles into the valley definately paint these guys as extreme and evil. Although why is it that whenever we see the evil soldiers, there's always a group of them march-running? What the hell is that all about?
So, predictions on next season, if we get one. I'm going to guess that there must be other time portals that go to different eras. Perhaps we'll meet Nazis in the Badlands? Okay, getting serious again, I'm guessing Mira is eventually going to switch sides and join Taylor, seeing as how she is being screwed over by Phoenix Group.
Although I have been critical of this show, having completed a season I'll admit the show has a certain charm to it and it's definately livened up my Monday nights. I'll definately watch another season if we get one and if we don't, then at least it has a satisfyng enough ending.
What's the protocol for meeting up with time travelling NAZIs?
Kill on sight?
Separate party loyalists vs. German citizens along for the ride and then execute the party loyalists.
Figure out if the party loyalists are actually responsible for hate crimes and then execute them or not. Of course shooting Allied soldiers is not a hate crime, it's just a day at work, or we'd have to execute Allied Soldiers for shooting German soldiers during the regular course of war too, other wise we're just picking on the Nazis.
Or wonder if execution is at all possible if these Nazis, naughty or nice, might have to be returned to their origin in history at some point if the "portals" are still blinking on and off, pulling and sucking randomly, that any one can go home, or at least "somewhere else" with but a leap of faith.
You'd have to be an arrogant monster not to treat even time travelling Nazis with the benefit of the doubt and a grain of salt, because people are complex, and maybe without superior officers pushing the party line these Germans have no to little political ideals at all and might actually be good blokes who have done nothing worse than guard grain.
"sigh"
Good guys in Nazi Uniforms?
When Stalag 13 was finally liberated by the US Army, Le Beau and Carter personally hung Sergeant Shutlz with barbed wire from the machine gun towers.
See!!
Terra Nova would never be so daring.
Would the Terra Novans return to the 1940s to abort the ecological collapse of the planet or at least a planet considering we don't know how many parallel time lines are in play that they're not returning to their 1942?
Kill on sight?
Separate party loyalists vs. German citizens along for the ride and then execute the party loyalists.
Figure out if the party loyalists are actually responsible for hate crimes and then execute them or not. Of course shooting Allied soldiers is not a hate crime, it's just a day at work, or we'd have to execute Allied Soldiers for shooting German soldiers during the regular course of war too, other wise we're just picking on the Nazis.
Or wonder if execution is at all possible if these Nazis, naughty or nice, might have to be returned to their origin in history at some point if the "portals" are still blinking on and off, pulling and sucking randomly, that any one can go home, or at least "somewhere else" with but a leap of faith.
You'd have to be an arrogant monster not to treat even time travelling Nazis with the benefit of the doubt and a grain of salt, because people are complex, and maybe without superior officers pushing the party line these Germans have no to little political ideals at all and might actually be good blokes who have done nothing worse than guard grain.
"sigh"
Good guys in Nazi Uniforms?
When Stalag 13 was finally liberated by the US Army, Le Beau and Carter personally hung Sergeant Shutlz with barbed wire from the machine gun towers.
See!!
Terra Nova would never be so daring.
Would the Terra Novans return to the 1940s to abort the ecological collapse of the planet or at least a planet considering we don't know how many parallel time lines are in play that they're not returning to their 1942?
Lucas fawning all over Skye was creepy and icky. Allison Miller is 26 but her character is just 16 years old. Just ew.
Are you sure she's 16? because Jim said his daughter Maddy was 16, so unless Maddy and Josh were twins, or Josh is from a different marriage or adopted, either of which would explain why he is so fricking pale... I imagined Josh and Skye to be 18ish... Wasn't it odd that Josh's future Girlfriend came through without her parents? That could make her, and her contemporaries, as old as 20?
Dating someone the same age as your younger sister is weird that close still to puberty.
Dating someone the same age as your younger sister is weird that close still to puberty.
Huh??? No it's not.
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