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The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

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Frankly, this project has got me seriously considering getting a Blu-Ray so I can get in on the fun.

Y'see, I don't have any TNG on hand, except for a couple of VHS cassettes hidden away somewhere.

This is definitely the time and way to get it. I'm counting down the days to the sampler.

RAMA
 
The reason they redid the effects was because they felt the old stuff just wasn't up to the task anymore not because it couldn't be remastered.

Not 'entirely' accurate. :)

The reason they remade the effects in CGI is because the 'original' uncomposited elements no longer exist for TOS. Yes, the finished shots still exist, but remastering those is not anywhere near the same thing as what they're doing with TNG:R. The TNG materials consist of all the 'layers' filmed with the ship models, before they are laid on top of each other for the finished scene. If those original elements had existed for TOS:R, they could have rescanned them and recomposited them with modern techniques as well. I'm sure it would have looked quite beautiful since they would be able to put new planets and phaser shots into those scenes as well.


Yeah most of the finished shots looked terrible in TOS, it would have required a whole reworking from the original elements...but even so the techniques of the time would have probably rendered them inferior to the CGI of the TOS-R that exists now.
 
This is all sounding like a "Not Buy" for me. I dont want to see 80-90's CGI but just upscaled... This sounds like a waste of an effort...
1) That's not at all what they're doing, and

2) The effort is about making the show HD, which is hardly effort wasted.

Any CGI that exists from STNG is going to have to be completely redone, its not up to the HD standard, doesn't he know that yet??
 
^I think we're wasting our breath. It looks like it was just a drive-by posting by CaptainJack. He clearly made no effort to read the thread.
 
^I think we're wasting our breath. It looks like it was just a drive-by posting by CaptainJack. He clearly made no effort to read the thread.

I look forward to the new CGI for the Darsay Archive in Masks...as good as it was, it would have to be better in 1080p CGI.
 
^I think we're wasting our breath. It looks like it was just a drive-by posting by CaptainJack. He clearly made no effort to read the thread.

I look forward to the new CGI for the Darsay Archive in Masks...as good as it was, it would have to be better in 1080p CGI.

I remember not liking Masks when it first aired so I've only seen it the one time. Maybe rewatching it in HD will change my mind. It'll almost be like wacthing a new episode for me!

There's also the under used ventral star-drive phaser array.

I'd love to see that.
 
Maybe rewatching it in HD will change my mind. It'll almost be like wacthing a new episode for me!

This is honestly how I felt watching TOS-R. Even episodes I'd seen multiple times, or episodes I didn't really like were fascinating to watch again and see all the fantastic detail of the production.
 
Maybe rewatching it in HD will change my mind. It'll almost be like wacthing a new episode for me!

This is honestly how I felt watching TOS-R. Even episodes I'd seen multiple times, or episodes I didn't really like were fascinating to watch again and see all the fantastic detail of the production.

This is what I have been saying all along...

RAMA
 
That was wretchedly done. The "Sun" looked like a glowy planet, and the Enterprise wasn't even lit right to look like it was anywhere near a superbright object.
Agreed. That was one of my least favourite new FX shots. :(

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Back to TNG, can someone find a screenshot of the incorrect phaser beam from Darmok and see if the proper phaser strip is also in a usable part of the shot? I can't recall exactly how it looked from memory. It might not be possible to fix the mistake if the beam would look weirdly off-centre or something.

EDIT: Ah, is this it?
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Considering there isn't anything relevant in the background of the shot, they can easily use another clip of the Enterprise from a better angle and add the phaser fire in.
 
I like that they are taking a restrained approach to this. It seems too easy on these things to succumb to "feature creep" and start adding things just because they can.
 
That was wretchedly done. The "Sun" looked like a glowy planet, and the Enterprise wasn't even lit right to look like it was anywhere near a superbright object.
Agreed. That was one of my least favourite new FX shots. :(

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Back to TNG, can someone find a screenshot of the incorrect phaser beam from Darmok and see if the proper phaser strip is also in a usable part of the shot? I can't recall exactly how it looked from memory. It might not be possible to fix the mistake if the beam would look weirdly off-centre or something.

EDIT: Ah, is this it?
393621torpedophasersupe.jpg
They should just use a different shot of the model. It would look silly to have the beam coming off the backside of the phaser-strip going forwards.
 
Considering the number of shots prior to this of the Enterprise firing her phasers, there really wasn't any need for a new shot in the first place.

At times like this, stock footage is your friend.
 
Speaking of DS9 and HD..
we do get to see a glimpse of the station in the TNG episode "Birthright", both inside and outside.
I am sure it will look glorious:cool:
 
You're right! That should be pretty cool although I think it'll be a quite a few years before we get to see it.
 
I want the entire Star Trek universe in Blu-ray. Is that too much to ask for? And when is the new live action series coming dammit? :)
 
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