The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by jefferiestubes8, May 14, 2011.

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  1. bullethead

    bullethead Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Feb 24, 2008
    I'm incredibly amused by the fact that the torpedoes still detonate in low orbit rather than in the actual atmosphere.
  2. Michael

    Michael Le modérateur de fanart Moderator

    Jul 10, 2007
    Aloha Quadrant
    Here's the brief sequence I was talking about in the other thread. It looks like this was simply upscaled from SD, doesn't it? It's even more jarring in motion, actually.
  3. FrontierTrek

    FrontierTrek Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Feb 3, 2003

    Definitely not upscaled - there's so much more detail in the shot compared to the SD version. But there are certainly some issues with that particular shot, perhaps one of the resident videophiles here can shed some light on it.
  4. Maxwell Everett

    Maxwell Everett Commodore Commodore

    Mar 31, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
    Good catch! I can now see what you were talking about... those are scaling artifacts. For some reason the original shot (after being scanned from film) ended up with a vertical resolution of 540p, and they did a simple "Nearest Neighbor" enlargement to 1080p.

    You can verify this by taking the TrekCore image into Photoshop and reducing the vertical resolution by half to 540 (uncheck "Constrain Proportions"). The image will now be squashed, but the "jaggies" will be gone. Now scale it back up to 1080 using "Nearest Neighbor"-- it will look the same as it did before.
  5. Trekker4747

    Trekker4747 Boldly going... Premium Member

    Jul 16, 2001
    Kansas City
    Anyone else notice the flickering/failing fluorescent light inside the transporter room wall panel? Never noticed it before but it's very obvious in pretty much every scene that takes place in the transporter room where the panel is seen. :lol: Obviously the ballast to the fixture was going out during the filming of the season and no one could take the 20-minutes to replace it.
  6. GameOn

    GameOn Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Jul 27, 2012
    I've wondered something similar since seeing that shot. It's kind of like they've taken one 1080i interlaced field which would be 1920 x 540 and then stretched it out to fill the whole frame.

    In "The Battle" when Wesley is talking to Dr Crusher and Troi there's a really obvious interlaced shot lasting for several seconds at 32:57 and then a pixelated one at 33:02.

    I've noticed interlaced and pixelated frames here and there in a number of episodes, they're difficult to spot but going frame by frame you can see them. I don't understand why they're there as the blu-rays should have been produced end to end in progressive scan. I wonder if it's some sort of bit stream flag issue.
  7. raffie

    raffie Commander Red Shirt

    Aug 25, 2003
    This is an interlacing issue, the fields (odd lines / even lines) were switched. But then I would assume the blu-ray wouldn't contain interlaced video but rather progressive, so for some reason this interlaced piece of video was used which would also produce a result like this if your output was going to be progressive.
  8. Mutai Sho-Rin

    Mutai Sho-Rin Crusty Old Bastard Moderator

    Jul 31, 2001
    Orange, CA USA
    I think it is time to retire this well used thread since there are two new ones to play with in the sticky stack. Farewell old thread; you have served admirably.
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