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SW blu-rays have changes to the films again

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Why is it hard to understand? I, and many other people, want the original movies -as they appeared in their first runs- on the best-quality available format for this day-and-age, that being Blue-Ray disc.

You can want whatever. You are owed nothing by Lucas. It's his call. That some don't like it is immaterial to him I imagine.

One thing he can't be called is greedy in this case since he could offer both and surely make more.
 
Why is it hard to understand? I, and many other people, want the original movies -as they appeared in their first runs- on the best-quality available format for this day-and-age, that being Blue-Ray disc.

You can want whatever. You are owed nothing by Lucas. It's his call. That some don't like it is immaterial to him I imagine.

One thing he can't be called is greedy in this case since he could offer both and surely make more.

Fans may not be owed anything by Lucas but it would certainly be a nice gesture on his part to listen to the them since they helped get him where he is today.

I don't see why he can't include the original theatrical cut or even release it separately. It's like going to see a Bruce Springsteen concert and only getting to hear material from his new album.
 
Why is it hard to understand? I, and many other people, want the original movies -as they appeared in their first runs- on the best-quality available format for this day-and-age, that being Blue-Ray disc.
Well then you patently don't want to see the original movies. You want to see some kind of pixie-dust-enhanced zombie version of the original movies, something that could not have existed thirty years ago.
 
Why is it hard to understand? I, and many other people, want the original movies -as they appeared in their first runs- on the best-quality available format for this day-and-age, that being Blue-Ray disc.

You can want whatever. You are owed nothing by Lucas. It's his call. That some don't like it is immaterial to him I imagine.

One thing he can't be called is greedy in this case since he could offer both and surely make more.

Fans may not be owed anything by Lucas but it would certainly be a nice gesture on his part to listen to the them since they helped get him where he is today.

I don't see why he can't include the original theatrical cut or even release it separately. It's like going to see a Bruce Springsteen concert and only getting to hear material from his new album.

As others have said, he HAS released the theatrical cut. It was a bonus on the last DVD release.

The Boss will play what he wants to play. Some artist DON'T want to always play their hits. And they don't.
 
I read an interview with John Mellencamp once where he stated that he hated playing Jack and Diane but he did it because he knew his fans loved it. Just sayin'.
 
Why is it hard to understand? I, and many other people, want the original movies -as they appeared in their first runs- on the best-quality available format for this day-and-age, that being Blue-Ray disc.
Well then you patently don't want to see the original movies. You want to see some kind of pixie-dust-enhanced zombie version of the original movies, something that could not have existed thirty years ago.

I'm getting the awful feeling you're like one of those people on the forums at Theforce.net that made me leave there when the "bonus" DVDs came out, because all the Lucas sycophants were defending the decision, saying that movies made before the creation of DVD couldn't be made 16x9 for DVD.

Please tell me you're not one of those horrifically misinformed people? Please tell me you're aware of movies like Close Encounters of the Third Kind (theatrical release 1977, special edition re-release 1980, director's cut release 1998), which has all three cuts on DVD and Bluray. Please tell me that you're aware of movies like BladeRunner (1982 theatrical release, 1992 director's cut re-release) which has FIVE! versions on the DVD and Bluray sets? Please tell me you're aware of every other widescreen movie made before 1977 which can somehow, amazingly, miraculously be issued in 16x9 on DVD and Bluray, yet for some bizarre reason the original Star Wars films cannot?

Please?
 
I just hope that when Lucas dies a label like Criterion will get their hands on the OT and (a) properly restore it and (b) provide some interesting special features that aren't afraid to be a little critical.
 
Why is it hard to understand? I, and many other people, want the original movies -as they appeared in their first runs- on the best-quality available format for this day-and-age, that being Blue-Ray disc.
Well then you patently don't want to see the original movies. You want to see some kind of pixie-dust-enhanced zombie version of the original movies, something that could not have existed thirty years ago.

Star Wars was shot on 35mm film, a format which has GREATER resolution that 1080p Blu-Ray. If it wasn't originally shot at a resolution greater than or equal to 1080p, how could a Blu-Ray of it be made in the first place? All of the special effects additions and gratuitous NOOOOOOOO's have NOTHING do nothing to make the films more suitable for Blu-Ray.
 
Why is it hard to understand? I, and many other people, want the original movies -as they appeared in their first runs- on the best-quality available format for this day-and-age, that being Blue-Ray disc.
Well then you patently don't want to see the original movies. You want to see some kind of pixie-dust-enhanced zombie version of the original movies, something that could not have existed thirty years ago.

I'm getting the awful feeling you're like one of those people on the forums at Theforce.net that made me leave there when the "bonus" DVDs came out, because all the Lucas sycophants were defending the decision, saying that movies made before the creation of DVD couldn't be made 16x9 for DVD.

Please tell me you're not one of those horrifically misinformed people? Please tell me you're aware of movies like Close Encounters of the Third Kind (theatrical release 1977, special edition re-release 1980, director's cut release 1998), which has all three cuts on DVD and Bluray. Please tell me that you're aware of movies like BladeRunner (1982 theatrical release, 1992 director's cut re-release) which has FIVE! versions on the DVD and Bluray sets? Please tell me you're aware of every other widescreen movie made before 1977 which can somehow, amazingly, miraculously be issued in 16x9 on DVD and Bluray, yet for some bizarre reason the original Star Wars films cannot?

Please?

Of course it physically could assuming there's an original, non-destroyed print out there. Hell, "The Wizard of OZ" looks great on blu-ray. I don't think anyone doubts that it'd be possible.

The creator of the 'saga' doesn't want it. Didn't Kubrick purposefully destroy all sorts of production material for 2001 so a film sequel could not be made? (it was anyway)

Lucas has made his choice. I'm not saying it's my preferred outcome but it's certainly his choice. I don't hate him for that, or dislike him, even.
 
You know, using the Blu Rays and the DVDs of laserdisc transfers of the original releases as sources, it shouldn't be too hard for any enterprising fan-editor to make a 1080p reconstruction of the theatrical editions. It would by no means be perfect, especially if you insisted on a no-compromises take and pulled out every single CG dewback and aurobesh sign instead of just taking out the most offensive stuff, but it's possible. It'd be a bit like how when they released "The Cage" on video, and they used footage shown in "The Menagerie" whenever they could, but there was still a noticable drop in quality (or, depending on the edition, color) whenever they had to switch to the old workprint found in the vault.
 
Well then you patently don't want to see the original movies. You want to see some kind of pixie-dust-enhanced zombie version of the original movies, something that could not have existed thirty years ago.

I'm getting the awful feeling you're like one of those people on the forums at Theforce.net that made me leave there when the "bonus" DVDs came out, because all the Lucas sycophants were defending the decision, saying that movies made before the creation of DVD couldn't be made 16x9 for DVD.

Please tell me you're not one of those horrifically misinformed people? Please tell me you're aware of movies like Close Encounters of the Third Kind (theatrical release 1977, special edition re-release 1980, director's cut release 1998), which has all three cuts on DVD and Bluray. Please tell me that you're aware of movies like BladeRunner (1982 theatrical release, 1992 director's cut re-release) which has FIVE! versions on the DVD and Bluray sets? Please tell me you're aware of every other widescreen movie made before 1977 which can somehow, amazingly, miraculously be issued in 16x9 on DVD and Bluray, yet for some bizarre reason the original Star Wars films cannot?

Please?

Of course it physically could assuming there's an original, non-destroyed print out there. Hell, "The Wizard of OZ" looks great on blu-ray. I don't think anyone doubts that it'd be possible.

The creator of the 'saga' doesn't want it. Didn't Kubrick purposefully destroy all sorts of production material for 2001 so a film sequel could not be made? (it was anyway)

Lucas has made his choice. I'm not saying it's my preferred outcome but it's certainly his choice. I don't hate him for that, or dislike him, even.


Sorry, but it's two different issues, and I want the discussion clear. There are people who seriously think it is not physically possible. Lucas may have cut the original negatives, but the possibility of a very good DVD and Blu release made from other materials is still possible.

Look up the stories about films like The Passion of Joan of Arc and Metropolis were put back together from parts of film found around the world. There are much more materials for the SW films in the hands of LFL, Fox and private collectors, this is not the issue.

I feel like too many people are so ready to defend Lucas (which is their right) that they use faulty information (whether intentional or not, that is *not* their right) and that just muddies the discussion.
 
The are prints in the library congress of the entire OT. They aren't the original negatives, but they would be good enough to create a satisfactory Blu-Ray release of the theatrical editions, I think.
 
The are prints in the library congress of the entire OT. They aren't the original negatives, but they would be good enough to create a satisfactory Blu-Ray release of the theatrical editions, I think.
So it's Congress's fault! Damn Republicans! :klingon:
 
and george gets to keep the copyrights to star wars till 2072. so get over it.

Here's a question: Every time he changes parts of the movies and creates new "special editions" does he extend the copyright, on the theory that these editions are "new" works?
 
You can want whatever. You are owed nothing by Lucas. It's his call. That some don't like it is immaterial to him I imagine.

One thing he can't be called is greedy in this case since he could offer both and surely make more.

Fans may not be owed anything by Lucas but it would certainly be a nice gesture on his part to listen to the them since they helped get him where he is today.

I don't see why he can't include the original theatrical cut or even release it separately. It's like going to see a Bruce Springsteen concert and only getting to hear material from his new album.

As others have said, he HAS released the theatrical cut. It was a bonus on the last DVD release.

The Boss will play what he wants to play. Some artist DON'T want to always play their hits. And they don't.

And those theatrical cuts were non-anamorphic and not at DVD resolution.
 
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