The people on the internet would argue that a white/straighter DC Universe would be a better one.
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The people on the internet would argue that a white/straighter DC Universe would be a better one.
Tony Daniel interview on the "Detective Comics" relaunch.
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dcnu-tony-daniel-detective-comic-110701.html
Honestly I'm not sure why these outlets are even bothering interviewing the creators yet. I don't really think anyone has come out and stated what they're book is truly going to be about, the character direction they're going in, what the plots are going to be. We know "Justice League" is opening up with an origin story. "Action Comics" seems to be "Superman: Year One" and Paul Levitz has stated the Legion continuity is intact from the previous one. Other than that they've not said anything of real value about these books. My guess is they're saving most of that type of discussion for San Diego.
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dcnu-tony-daniel-detective-comic-110701.html
Honestly I'm not sure why these outlets are even bothering interviewing the creators yet. I don't really think anyone has come out and stated what they're book is truly going to be about, the character direction they're going in, what the plots are going to be. We know "Justice League" is opening up with an origin story. "Action Comics" seems to be "Superman: Year One" and Paul Levitz has stated the Legion continuity is intact from the previous one. Other than that they've not said anything of real value about these books. My guess is they're saving most of that type of discussion for San Diego.
If he did, he'd have to stop believing in himself. Who else is he going to worship, anyway?
Batman is a relaunch.
GL is the same
Firestorm and Hawkman have been changed.
I think Aquaman is still the same.
^ I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the nitty gritty about the books. As I said the status of characters, possible plot points, stuff fans actually want to know about. Not about tone or structure.
You could just read the comic.
Sigh.
Those people can suck it.
Yeah, but with 52 titles to choose from, we're currently guessing which ones we're interested in from creative teams and characters only. It'd be nice to have something more solid, like a general plot overview of the first issues, to make a better judgment.
^ Thank you. That's exactly what I meant.
Have you read Scott Snyder's comments about Batman?
From Newsarama (though I grant you that the other Bat-writers seem to support your statement). As for Snyder (and Kyle Higgins):
Scott Snyder said:
Scott Snyder said:
Scott Snyder and Kyle Higgins said:
Scott Snyder said:
Kyle Higgins said:
Scott Snyder said:
It certainly sounds, especially the quotes about Gotham, that they have the tones of their respective comics down. Granted both of them are co-writing the excellent Gates of Gotham mini-series, which I'd guess is the blueprint for what they want to do with Gotham, but still, they seem to have a bigger picture than some of the other writers.
As far as the writers as a whole, we're in July now. The first comics come out at the end of next month. They better start figuring out the tone of the comics they are writing!
Scott Snyder said:
I knew they were going to use that avenue to make Batman less international and more connected to Gotham, but I didn't think they were going to do it so fast.
The Bat-corner of the DCU at the moment seems to be the most stable creative wise. Meanwhile the Superman corner seems to be the most unstable.
If you want a picture of the future, imagine Batman non-lethally subduing the Joker, forever.
I think Broccoli is near the mark. Since we know "Batman, Inc" is continuing next year and will wrap the Leviathan story arc it's possible that Bruce will be comfortable enough with all of his assets in place to return to Gotham City.
I would agree that the Superman family seems to be involved in the most uproot in this relaunch.
I would agree that the Superman family seems to be involved in the most uproot in this relaunch.
I've been reading this thread but it's quite long now and I don't recall if everything I'm about to say has been covered, so forgive me if it has.
The most perplexing thing to me is how Superman will be handled. Do you think the reboot aspect of it will just be a newish origin, some basic changes and then the five-year gap will be filled in with various (and somewhat changed versions of) events from past comics, picked by the writers (possibly guided by editorial orders of what is and isn't off-limits)?
Clearly we're not dealing with another MOS situation, since we're also getting a Supergirl #1 and Superboy #1. So right off the bat he's not the only Kryptonian. Or if he is, not for more than five years. So how much of the "new" history (the time between Action #1 and Superman #1) is going to be filled with altered versions of stories already done? I assume things like WONK will be out but will he have already met many of his rogues gallery by the time Superman #1 picks up? I guess I'm assuming the first arc in Action doesn't also introduce Supergirl and Superboy.
Green Lantern continuing on doesn't seem to present a ton of problems, but with Batman, right away I wonder about RIP, which is very recent and would seem important, but it's also closely tied with Final Crisis and Batman's "death" which of course leads right into all the recent history with Dick as Batman. So I'm very curious how much they're holding onto, and if they do want to slip FC as happening into the years we don't see with Superman, that seems to pose a lot of problems as I don't understand how that doesn't drag COIE along with it.
The answers to some of these questions will probably be more obvious once I see the first couple of issues. But it seems so potentially complicated, I imagine we'll be seeing old events brought into canon (possibly in some altered form) for years to come.
Maybe I'm overthinking it. I also don't hate what they're doing but it seems like even a less clean slate than COIE left DC to work with.
The most perplexing thing to me is how Superman will be handled. Do you think the reboot aspect of it will just be a newish origin, some basic changes and then the five-year gap will be filled in with various (and somewhat changed versions of) events from past comics, picked by the writers (possibly guided by editorial orders of what is and isn't off-limits)?
Clearly we're not dealing with another MOS situation, since we're also getting a Supergirl #1 and Superboy #1. So right off the bat he's not the only Kryptonian. Or if he is, not for more than five years. So how much of the "new" history (the time between Action #1 and Superman #1) is going to be filled with altered versions of stories already done? I assume things like WONK will be out but will he have already met many of his rogues gallery by the time Superman #1 picks up? I guess I'm assuming the first arc in Action doesn't also introduce Supergirl and Superboy.
Green Lantern continuing on doesn't seem to present a ton of problems, but with Batman, right away I wonder about RIP, which is very recent and would seem important, but it's also closely tied with Final Crisis and Batman's "death" which of course leads right into all the recent history with Dick as Batman. So I'm very curious how much they're holding onto, and if they do want to slip FC as happening into the years we don't see with Superman, that seems to pose a lot of problems as I don't understand how that doesn't drag COIE along with it.
The answers to some of these questions will probably be more obvious once I see the first couple of issues. But it seems so potentially complicated, I imagine we'll be seeing old events brought into canon (possibly in some altered form) for years to come.
Maybe I'm overthinking it. I also don't hate what they're doing but it seems like even a less clean slate than COIE left DC to work with.
First of all it's not a reboot that would be an inaccurate term as we know now. It's a relaunch as portions of previous continuity will be retained along with characters as we knew them.
As for Superman. The only thing that we really know so far and it's not really been confirmed yet I don't think is that Grant Morrison is planning on doing something similar to his proposed "Superman: Year One" storyline. At least this is theoretically what the first year of "Action Comics" is supposed to be about. We don't know what time period "Superman: Man of Tomorrow" takes place in yet I don't think.
As mentioned previously in the thread Batman continuity and characters will be retained with Bruce Wayne the sole Batman now and Dick returning to his role of Nightwing but in a redesigned costume and operating in Gotham City. "Batman, Inc" will be continuing it's second arc until August then be on hiatus until some point next year.
As for Superman. The only thing that we really know so far and it's not really been confirmed yet I don't think is that Grant Morrison is planning on doing something similar to his proposed "Superman: Year One" storyline. At least this is theoretically what the first year of "Action Comics" is supposed to be about. We don't know what time period "Superman: Man of Tomorrow" takes place in yet I don't think.
As mentioned previously in the thread Batman continuity and characters will be retained with Bruce Wayne the sole Batman now and Dick returning to his role of Nightwing but in a redesigned costume and operating in Gotham City. "Batman, Inc" will be continuing it's second arc until August then be on hiatus until some point next year.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/13/scott-lobdell-talks-teen-titans-to-bleeding-cool/
I guess the above quote from Scott Lobdell sort of answers my question. If they're going to include something as far back as The Death of Superman, I guess anything's fair game. It seems that when you strip away the digital push, the renumbering and the hype, what they're doing with Superman is not too far removed from what Johns did with Green Lantern's recent origin arc. But probably closer to Miller's Batman Year One. I was initially under the impression that a lot more of Superman's history was going to be dumped.
I'll be curious to see what they do with Wonder Woman.
I guess the above quote from Scott Lobdell sort of answers my question. If they're going to include something as far back as The Death of Superman, I guess anything's fair game. It seems that when you strip away the digital push, the renumbering and the hype, what they're doing with Superman is not too far removed from what Johns did with Green Lantern's recent origin arc. But probably closer to Miller's Batman Year One. I was initially under the impression that a lot more of Superman's history was going to be dumped.
I'll be curious to see what they do with Wonder Woman.
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