Ah. I stand corrected.
I hope she's not an Atlantean again.
I hope she's not an Atlantean again.
DC to REBOOT???
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Bleeding Cool has the scoop from the Retailer Roadshow:
Also, rumors are that Action and Detective will return to their original numbering.
Also, rumors are that Action and Detective will return to their original numbering.
That's terrible. If you're going to renumber the books then have the balls to stick with it.
Action Comics sounds more and more like at least for the first year we're going to be getting Grant Morrison's "Superman: Year One". I'm going to have to take a look back at the 2000 Superman Project proposal.
Yeah, it's been sounding for the last week or so as if Batman and Green Lantern would be left basically alone, though the timelines of their adventures will probably be compressed as necessary. Batman is probably their best selling title, and Green Lantern has become the linchpin of the DC Universe since Johns came along and kicked the Marz/Kyle stuff to the curb.
Sure, that'll be left alone.
It's easy enough to understand the rationale, since they're obviously going to keep the ideas that have been driving them. No one wants to see a reintroduction of Torts, Incorporated or what-the-Endless-would-have-been-if-Neil-Gaiman-had-personally-hated-you, only a few months after the concepts got set up.
Actually, I might. I wonder if the Star Sapphires would get pants?
It's easy enough to understand the rationale, since they're obviously going to keep the ideas that have been driving them. No one wants to see a reintroduction of Torts, Incorporated or what-the-Endless-would-have-been-if-Neil-Gaiman-had-personally-hated-you, only a few months after the concepts got set up.
Actually, I might. I wonder if the Star Sapphires would get pants?
They may well change the Star Sapphire costumes, since the look of characters is being redesigned whether their books are being rebooted or not.
Now you know what us "Modern" age readers who liked Kyle and
Wally and the rest went through when DiDio decided to go back to the "Silver" age.....
Well, if it had been working they'd have kept it.
Really, it was nice of Johns to not just wipe Rayner out of continuity; the cost in good will could not have been much one way or the other.
It was working as fine as it needed to with a few exceptions but that's true for 80% of the DC stable. Batman, JLA and a few other titles always worked and others see fluctation.
Kyle and Wally as the headliners weren't doing any worse. Only editorial edict cried they must be replaced.
Blackest Night, Flashpoint are stories that easily couldn've been done with Kyle and Wally. The simple fact is like Quesada at Marvel they weren't interested in them and wanted to resurrect their image of the characters. All else be damned.
Hal and Barry were killed cause they boring, lets not forget that. The Hal they've resurrected has been given a personality shift in order to keep up. That isn't the exact Hal that died, at least not the ones I have from the 80's.
I totall agree with you. Hal Jordan was one of my favororites growing up and reading the GL comics. I was shocked to say the least when Emerald Twilight was issued and thought just how is this gonna work? Hell I even have Vol. III Issue #50 with the glow in the dark cover still bagged up. But as Kyles story progressed I think he became more interesting to me than Hal ever was.
Just goes to show you that he was more successful than you like to believe, Dennis....
^Hal sold more comic books since his return than Kyle ever did in the ten years that he was the star of the main GL book.
Blackest Night? Not with Kyle. He never had the issues with death that Hal or the connections with Sinestro and Abin Sur.
Blackest Night? Not with Kyle. He never had the issues with death that Hal or the connections with Sinestro and Abin Sur.
Wally and Dick Grayson at least had the years in - they had been in front of us (fans) for decades, "paying their dues" before taking on their mentor's roles. I think that plays some small role in their perceived success.
"Since his return" that wasn't the point.
His sells prior to his death were bad, bad enough to kill him, no but hey, that was the 90's for you. Hal was so washed up that editorial didn't frankly know what else to do with him so they said, "Hey we killed Barry, why not Hal."
Kyle's character arc had even moved beyond "rookie" status in they eyes of his JLA peers. Now once Hal came back it was time for insecurities to magically resurface. For Kyle to suddenly look risky, all just to make Hal look "needed".
Would Blackest Night have been written exactly the same, of course not, it was being tailored to showcase the continued "new and improved Hal Jordan", the crux of the story could've remained though.
It doesn't really matter - over and over during the Kyle era they brought back the Corps or Hal Jordan or Hal Jordan and the Corps in some form or another that at least made for a splashy cover, and the reason they did that was that sales always rose sharply for those issues.
Rayner started out as a loser and never improved; management saw what had to be done and finally did it.
It was satisfying, after all the fuss about "getting rid of Hal Jordan in such a way that he can never be Green Lantern again" how almost effortlessly all of those changes were discarded while making the book better and more successful than it had been in ages. You've gotta wonder if the editor who thought he'd done away with Hal had ever read comics.
There's nothing in comics that can't be undone with the application of a little handwavium.
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