Galen Marek: Star Wars' Ultimate Mary Sue?
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Stuff like this is what makes me avoid the Star Wars EU most of the time. Is it too much to ask to have a fictional universe where everything is not so incestuous, and where one or a small group of characters have this huge effect on everything in said universe? I mean, Darth Vader building C3P0, or Boba Fett turning from a minor character to a prototype for the clone army is bad enough in the prequels.
It just demystifies everything.
It just demystifies everything.
Darth Revan beats Galen Mark in terms of being a fan-insert.
Vader cloned him
and the ultimate Mary Sue in the SW verse is the Jedi chick from Traviss' Republic Commando series
He still needs to beat Yoda. That's why they are doing a sequel.
Huh??
I'm reading The Force Unleashed novelization right now. It's not great, but 60 pages in, it already beats the entirety of the NJO.
Totally disagree with you on this. I couldn't even get past the first five pages of TFU novelization. I did like the trade paperback though and I plan on buying the sequel trade whenever it comes out. But I'll pass on the novel. NJO was far more epic than TFU could ever be, in large part because TFU was constrained by Episodes 4-6, not to mention the Rule of Two, and to some extent the events of the prequel films. NJO could go anywhere and it remade the galaxy in a way that TFU could not, plus for good or ill NJO spawned the events that led to Dark Nest, LOTF, FOTJ, and the Legacy comic a hundred years later.
As to the larger assertion, yeah, I think they went a little overboard. If it had been made into an alternate universe, Infinities type story it might have been a little better to accept. To me it seemed like the spark of the Rebellion was lit in ROTS or maybe even before that with the frustrations with Senate corruption that GL illustrated in TPM. I don't think Galen needed to be inserted there. I think it does something of a disservice to Mon Mothma, Senator Organa, and the other founders of the Rebellion.
But I love the idea of a secret apprentice and of him hunting down the Jedi for Vader. The chance to see what kind of father Vader would be is also cool. So, for the most part those things trump the things I'm not cool with about TFU.
I can accept Galen's crazy skills because it is a video game, but it seems odd that no other Jedi/Sith has ever exhibited such powerful eruptions in the Force, to my knowledge anyway.
If they tamped down his powerset a little, I would've loved to see TFU as the Star Wars live-action show they were talking about, far more than any show about Boba Fett or whatever. Just showing Galen and Juno Eclipse going on different missions, with a cameo from Palpatine or Vader here and there, that would be cool.
Mary Sue or no, I didn't care much for Galen Marek. As far as awkwardly shoe-horned in secret apprentices that Anakin Skywalker had I actually liked Ashoka Tano better, heretically enough.
That's the nature of the beast of licensed fiction; an incestuous menagerie where the entire universe revolves around a half-dozen people is a usual result.
And Force-pulled a Star Destroyer out of the sky... gimme a break is right.
I was reading all this at the Wookipedia entry about him here, and I just thought "Geez, what a Mary Sue." It's obvious that "The Force Unleashed" was written by some fanboi who came along and decided to make the entire story revolve around his pet-character/personal avatar.
While his MarySue-ness was obvious from the entire Star Wars galaxy revolving around him, the dead give-away was his ultimate Mary-Sue "glorious death:"
More like ego unleashed.
After just reading that article, I feel the need for a sonic shower.
Like the man said: the ultimate Mary Sue.
(P.S. all that considered, I still don't hate him as much as Ahsoka Tano. )
It's like Deliverance: "they're all related..." and it squeals like a pig.
That explains why it's such a backwater galaxy where there are so many inbred mutants and they use Voodoo, and are always perpetually fueding with each other-- it's enough to make Dr. McCoy change his name to "Hatfield."
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Sam Witwer is awesome but yeah, Marek is the ultimate Mary Sue. Or Gary Stu.
And she'd carve "I lost to a bunch of kids" on his ship with her phasers just for bonus shame points.
And she'd carve "I lost to a bunch of kids" on his ship with her phasers just for bonus shame points.
Is that character a parody? Seriously, I'm asking; when the fanfic is that bad, it's hard to tell.
Yeah, everyone knows that Vader was actually defeated by Amber Marissa Flores Picard.
By and large, no, the Marissa stories weren't intended by Stephen Ratliff to be parodies.Is that character a parody? Seriously, I'm asking; when the fanfic is that bad, it's hard to tell.
And she'd carve "I lost to a bunch of kids" on his ship with her phasers just for bonus shame points.
Haha, I remember reading those fics back in the 1990s.
EDIT: I just spent the last 5 minutes reacquainting myself with Stephen Ratliff fic!
Knowing Lucas and his attitude towards the Star Wars Expanded Universe, it's possible that the live-action show-if it ever gets made-will retcon/ override the character. The Lucas-produced "Clone Wars" for instance has basically wiped out the continuity of the novels/comics/original animated series.
Then again, Lucas did have some input into the game itself.
I don't like how it messes with the continuity of the films.
For instance
-Vader and Palpatine sort of forming the Rebel Alliance. OK, so his trap in ROTJ made sense, and to a degree also the Clone Wars. But seriously, the Rebel alliance?
-Having Vader having an apprentice before the OT takes away from the importance of Luke.
Then again, Lucas did have some input into the game itself.
I don't like how it messes with the continuity of the films.
For instance
-Vader and Palpatine sort of forming the Rebel Alliance. OK, so his trap in ROTJ made sense, and to a degree also the Clone Wars. But seriously, the Rebel alliance?
-Having Vader having an apprentice before the OT takes away from the importance of Luke.
Pulling a star destroyer out of the sky isn't particularly impressive. Any half-assed padawan could do that.
Darth Nihilus could suck the life out of entire planets using the Force. Darth Sion was completely unkillable so long as his connection to the force was intact. Palpatine could annihilate entire fleets with minimum effort and mind-trick the entire galaxy. Jacen Solo could time travel. And Luke was more powerful than them all.
High level EU Jedi do things just teleport across the galaxy and juggle black holes.
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