Starting to get a bit sad isn't it.
I guess we'll probably never break the 100-episode barrier.
I guess we'll probably never break the 100-episode barrier.
Almost seven years since the last missing episode find...
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That is pretty sad, but never say never--they might still turn something up.
I'd naturally be quite happy if they found another. Or two. But were I a betting man...
^ Not sure if it's the same as you're referring to, but there was the mega-find of silent movies from New Zealand (?) a while back. Also, that 25 minutes longer version of Metropolis found in Argentina a year or two ago (which is the one that's finally prompting me to go Blu-Ray).
There's definitely still film/video to be found, we can only hope there's some Doctor Who out there.
There's definitely still film/video to be found, we can only hope there's some Doctor Who out there.
I will never stop hoping. Perhaps it's a just fool's hope.
No I think this find was in the US. Loads of stuff, just no Who!
I wouldn't mind seeing that list then.
I love hearing how a joke on the RT forum has suddenly turned into the latest missing episode rumour
I agree the Library of Congress find was encouraging, but I don't expect any more American sources to turn up unless someone with deep pockets had private copies made. It's well documented that no Doctor Who prior to Pertwee was ever distributed officially in the US (at the time of their broadcast). The same goes for pre-Diana Rigg Avengers episodes. The US stations were not interested in broadcasting videotaped, low-budgeted shows like that. That's why the Avengers switched to film, strictly for US sales reasons. The BBC never saw an American market for Doctor Who until PBS (which took over from NET in 1969) started gobbling up British dramas like jelly babies. But even then they wanted the color stuff (if they had expressed interest in the B&Ws I wonder if that might have saved the episodes from junking).
I know there was a thread where someone mentioned seeing a Troughton story in the US back in the 60s. But seeing as Doctor Who is the most-thoroughly documented series in television history next to Star Trek, if such a broadcast had ever occurred it would have been listed somewhere. We've got books that list the running times of every episode down to 10ths of a second, and lists of every time the cameras started rolling on an episode. While we may not have a firm record of, say, when episodes aired in Nigeria, but a place like Canada or the US we'd know by now. My feeling is perhaps some other TV show played footage from the episode in question as there was some fleeting media coverage of Doctor Who in North America in the 1960s, usually connected to the release of one of the Cushing films.
Canada, likewise, has limited potential, because only part of the first season was ever shown up here. However we do know for a fact the lost story Marco Polo was shown here, so there's always the chance someone made a private off-air film recording of the broadcast, or there's a copy on a reel of film in a CBC studio building somewhere. During the CBC's 50th anniversary back in 2003 they did a pretty thorough scouring of the archives and I never heard of any DW material being discovered - since they were actually promoting Doctor Who in 2005, you'd think we'd have heard of any lost material then. But I keep my fingers crossed.
The Lost in Time DVD set includes a quote from somebody- possibly Levine - stating his belief there are no more episodes to be found. And then they had to update the documentary because soon after a couple of episodes were found. So we can still hope that maybe in Tanzania or Sri Lanka or India or the Falkland Islands there's a can of film waiting to be rediscovered...
Alex
I know there was a thread where someone mentioned seeing a Troughton story in the US back in the 60s. But seeing as Doctor Who is the most-thoroughly documented series in television history next to Star Trek, if such a broadcast had ever occurred it would have been listed somewhere. We've got books that list the running times of every episode down to 10ths of a second, and lists of every time the cameras started rolling on an episode. While we may not have a firm record of, say, when episodes aired in Nigeria, but a place like Canada or the US we'd know by now. My feeling is perhaps some other TV show played footage from the episode in question as there was some fleeting media coverage of Doctor Who in North America in the 1960s, usually connected to the release of one of the Cushing films.
Canada, likewise, has limited potential, because only part of the first season was ever shown up here. However we do know for a fact the lost story Marco Polo was shown here, so there's always the chance someone made a private off-air film recording of the broadcast, or there's a copy on a reel of film in a CBC studio building somewhere. During the CBC's 50th anniversary back in 2003 they did a pretty thorough scouring of the archives and I never heard of any DW material being discovered - since they were actually promoting Doctor Who in 2005, you'd think we'd have heard of any lost material then. But I keep my fingers crossed.
The Lost in Time DVD set includes a quote from somebody- possibly Levine - stating his belief there are no more episodes to be found. And then they had to update the documentary because soon after a couple of episodes were found. So we can still hope that maybe in Tanzania or Sri Lanka or India or the Falkland Islands there's a can of film waiting to be rediscovered...
Alex
The recovery of Crusade 1 (only one episode, I'm afraid) within six months of him saying that was felt by many who he's irritated over the years to be doubly enjoyable because it showed the universe does have a sense of humour.
BTW: No chance of prints in the Falklands, as it didn't have TV until after 1982. Unless, just possibly, they were shown on cine-projectors in the town hall.
I love hearing how a joke on the RT forum has suddenly turned into the latest missing episode rumour
You think I actually believe what I said?
I think Alex is referring to DMP2 recovered in 2004, which also prompted an addition to the Missing Years doco.
From memory, didn't Levine say that comment simply as a means to jinx himself so karma might turn something up...?
I love hearing how a joke on the RT forum has suddenly turned into the latest missing episode rumour
You think I actually believe what I said?
Amusingly, there are some people who do - although having the story published in The Sun didn't help
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