Deck Plan Generations...and Bowling Alleys

[ST-One]

The beauty of this design is that it maintains the modular nature of the phaser, and based upon a closer examination of Jefferies' original design sketch of the Phaser II, is very much in keeping with the original concept, that to form the rifle, the pistol would be snapped into a rifle mount.

And, with the capability of stacking the power packs, we can go from the assault version pictured above, to something more of a sniper version here...

'Beauty' isn't the word that comes to mind seeing this ^

It would look somewhat ridiculous as a real prop.

 

[mtblillie]

'Beauty' isn't the word that comes to mind seeing this ^

It would look somewhat ridiculous as a real prop.

As did the original.

 

[kkozoriz1]

'Beauty' isn't the word that comes to mind seeing this ^

It would look somewhat ridiculous as a real prop.

Because it doesn't have a barrel that flips around when you change the settings?

 

[Captain Robert April]

^

 

[ST-One]

'Beauty' isn't the word that comes to mind seeing this ^

It would look somewhat ridiculous as a real prop.

As did the original.

I disagree.

'Beauty' isn't the word that comes to mind seeing this ^

It would look somewhat ridiculous as a real prop.

Because it doesn't have a barrel that flips around when you change the settings?

I don't like the new phaser's design all that much; but that particular little gimmick is a quick and very efficient way to show that the setting on the weapon was changed (all in one shot; no need for a second-unit close-up of a switch being turned or a line of dialogue stating that the setting has been changed).

 

[kkozoriz1]

Or showing someone changing the settings but not making a big deal about it. Or not worrying about it until the effect of the shot is shown. If the person glows and disappears, it's not stun.

Some people just refuse to admit that XI has any flaws at all. All versions of Trek have flaws but XI had a clean slate and still messed it up.

 

[ST-One]

Or showing someone changing the settings but not making a big deal about it. Or not worrying about it until the effect of the shot is shown. If the person glows and disappears, it's not stun.

Some people just refuse to admit that XI has any flaws at all. All versions of Trek have flaws but XI had a clean slate and still messed it up.

Messed it up?
Because a prop looks and works differently than the old one?

You have a curious definition of 'messing up'.

 

[kkozoriz1]

Not the only issue that they messed up as you well know. Or perhaps you don't. Those rose colored glasses must need cleaning.

 

[ST-One]

Not the only issue that they messed up as you well know. Or perhaps you don't. Those rose colored glasses must need cleaning.

They changed the design of the phaser. You don't like it, I don't like it particularly either.
You just feel compelled to bash Star Trek at each and every opportunity, don't you?

Would you have preferred that shitty looking phaser 'rifle' kit-bash CRA came up with?

 

[kkozoriz1]

Nope, I don't bash Trek at every opportunity as you well know. There's elements of all versions I like and don't like.

CRA's phaser rifle is based on an idea from TOS that the pistol would integrate into the rifle the same way that the hand phaser locked into the pistol. It's an interesting concept and I look forward to seeing how it progresses.

Just because I'm a fan doesn't mean that I have to agree with every design decision that the show presents.

 

[Ptrope]

Alright, guys, chill out. Cut the personal comments, particularly those aimed at members who aren't even part of your particular pissing match.

 

[JJohnson]

While we wait for the latest update, here's my latest idea for the phaser rifle.

A good pass at a modular phaser rifle. If I could offer some suggestions, I'd say instead of the stock trigger/handle there, have a modular version snap in there, extending forward onto the new, longer barrel for a two-handed grip. Something like this (but with a more integrated 2-handed grip):

 

[kkozoriz1]

I'm thinking more of a one piece rifle unit that the pistol would drop into. Keep the general lines of this just connect the stock with the barrel somehow.

 

[Captain Robert April]

I've never been a fan of the two handled setup, not even in real weapons.

And a further remark from Bjo, she feels that I've come as close to Jefferies' concept without actually consulting with him.

 

[largo]

come on, you can't add a forward grip without also adding a scope and underbarrel photon grenade launcher.

 

[Forbin]

It needs Picatinny rails!

 

[Captain Robert April]

What, no bayonet lug?

 

[Captain Robert April]

Getting back to that original Jefferies design drawing...

Well, I tried to clean up that pic to make it legible (it's impossible), so I spent some time in Barnes & Noble the other day and did a quick tracing of that drawing in "Star Trek 365", where it's much more legible.

Rather than scan my crude tracing, I transcribed the relevant notations to something more refined...

 

[kkozoriz1]

I assume the rifle was to be Unit 4?

 

[Captain Robert April]

That would be my guess, at least the shoulder stock part. And it seems like as good a place as any for the added power pack(s) implied by the "increased power and longer range" part of the description in TMoST. And the longer barrel is there primarily for balance and something to hold onto up front.

I'm beginning to think maybe a bit of an angle might be in order for the rear part, say fifteen degrees downward? Give it more of an U.N.C.L.E. gun vibe.

And after handling my AA/DST phaser a few minutes ago, it's clear that one power pack is not enough for a decent length on the shoulder stock.