SG-U – Incursion Part2 (1x20) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

[Jax]

Dark ending or what

Felt weird for season finale until the last half but those last 10 minutes or so were just brutal. Best way to deal with the baby story is to kill it though I expect us to possibly lose a major character by the end of part 3 when the 2nd season hits in the fall.

8 out of 10, I've enjoyed the season overall probably 7.5/10 though weaker than SG-A 1st season but better than SG-1's.

So with the season over who will be sticking around for season 2 and who will be buggering off. I ask that particular to KpNuts/Big Daddy who both told me 1 season last year before SGU began to impress them or they would dump it.

 

[JonathonWally]

Can we fire Mallozi now please?

I know it's too much to ask Cooper and Wright to pen every episode, but Mallozi is such a B team writer it's not funny.

 

[GotNoRice]

How about more actual story and less cheap artificial suspense?

 

[Yoda]

I gave it a 6/10. It wasn't particularly good, but I was markedly more entertained than the past few episodes, so I guess I have to 'reward' them.

First of all, man am I sick of the clips they use for the opening. It's worse than "In every generation there is a slayer"... seriously... "for the good of the ship", "I wonder what camp is the better choice", they keep playing a bunch of shit that isn't particularly relevant. Kind of obnoxious.

This episode was trying to find real drama, as usual, and fell just short. The ending scenes were ok, though I'm a bit sick of the season ending cliffhanger format, but I can't pin that on SGU. But there was too much cheese going down. Like when Commandant Leather shot the guy as punishment for the betrayal, she had to shoot him without breaking her stride, at a 90 degree angle from where she's looking. Because she's a cheesy B-movie comic book leather clad nonsense character. That shit is just too corny if you're trying to make it feel real and gritty. It's like a cut-scene from a video game designed to make 12 year olds think "Oh she's so bad ass!"

Young... where to start with Young? Who knows. The guy is utterly incompetent, as he's proven again. At this point I just applaud the consistency in writing. He makes bad emotional decisions all the time, and hopefully it'll get him killed. If they kill him off, along with the rest of those guys (weren't they pretty much all complete red shirts in there, was Lt. Tatas in there too?), and put Telford in a major role next season, maybe they can turn it around.

Telford and the Commandant's shootout was corny as well.

I wasn't surprised that the blonde medic chick took a bullet. I've been thinking throughout this arc that it would probably make the most sense if they just had an impromptu late-term abortion rather than have a baby on the ship. Doesn't really fit in with what they're trying to do.

Eli and Chloe were just... bad. The awkward "you know" stuff... ugh. Though I wish I could say I never had a similar conversation, but damn, trust me, I'll only ever have a conversation resembling that once.... ONCE!

I got a kick out of Greer and Tatum's (help me out people, how do you do a compound possessive like that?) collective survival depending on Eli running! I would not want to be them.

What the hell was Rush saying to Young... something like "It had to be someone... would you rather it be Chloe or Eli, or any of your Hanson Brothers?"

I played it back a couple of times... but damn, I guess I can't handle the accent that well. He couldn't have said that, right... But if he did... did he mean

or

Help me out here

Ming-na's negotiating and general attitude are total fail as usual.

The gamma ray burst stuff was kind of cool... like, hey, here's some science for you kids! It came off as less contrived than a number of theories about what was going on.

I'm curious to see what happens in the resolution... they could totally screw it to the point where I'll abandon ship, or take it into an interesting direction. I wouldn't bet on the latter, but I'll give them the chance.

 

[The Wormhole]

Very average and kind of disappointing. And strangely enough, I was frequently reminded of Star Trek. Yeah, like a poster above mentioned, this is kind of like when the Kazon took over Voyager. But also, the bit with Scott and Greer fiddling with the shield generator reminded me of the deflector dish scene in First Contact. They even had a lever which was jammed and was near impossible. Seriously, I was wondering when the Borg were going to start giving them trouble. Or when it was done if a turncoat Telford was going to show up, beat Scott up until Greer killed him.

I remember someone in another thread commenting on why they didn't cut the gate room's artificial gravity when the Lucian Alliance first arrived, and it was suggested that they had no control over that system. But here we see they do. But, like I pointed out in the other thread, this is often overlooked in sci-fi so I'll ignore it here.

Eli and Chloe's scenes were pointless. More tired relationship angst with a crack about Facebook to make the episode trendy.

So, Kiva eventually became suspicious of Telford, but apparentally everyone else in the Lucian Alliance trusted Telford enough to assume he was shot by the Destiny crew. Idiots. But, what can you expect from cliched goons?

And what was up with Telford keeping his gun directly above his crotch? Even with the safety on, this can't be comfortable.

I too was hoping they would reveal Dr. Franklin as a ghost in the machine and he caused the guy to melt and was helping defend Destiny from the Lucian Alliance. But I guess that wouldn't be as dark and gritty as a badass pulsar.

So everything is set up for the cliffhanger. Obviously some deus ex machina will prevent the Lucian Alliance from executing Young and the other military officers. Scott and Greer are already through the airlock. Chloe will likely survive her wounds since this show doesn't exactly have an abundance of females in the cast, and I'm pretty sure the actress has been well behaved. And I guess they got around showing TJ's pregnancy and not having to worry about finding baby actors. And Rush and Mr Brody will save the day.

And when all the Lucian Alliance are dealt with we can "enjoy" a pop song montage showing life getting back to normal.

 

[optimus1]

Thought it was a great finale, can't wait for next season

 

[Quantum]

I actualy like wray in this episode...

Poor Eli gonna carry her bow to stern and she still gonna screw Scott.

what a slut

Not a slut, just the the fact that while woman may say personality is important, 90% of the time they will choose the "hot guy".

Oh, and I've cut Camille Wray a lot of slack over this season...this episode has finally convinced me that she is a complete moron.

She was ready to surrender before any of that s--t even went down. People always go on about Chloe being useless, but she has contributed more than Wray ever has.

Wray is your stereotypical liberal civilian. She's very intelligent but she acts according to inaccurate assumptions about how the world works. She goes about things under the assumption that other have similar sensibilities to her own.

Say what you will about Wray, But I think she had the right idea. A peace treaty would have been preferable to a bloodbath.

 

[The Grim Ghost]

^ Not just a peace treaty. She suggested that they simply surrender to save the lives of the hostages. And this was before a lot of the crazier stuff even started to happen. That is just insanity.

 

[David cgc]

What the hell was Rush saying to Young... something like "It had to be someone... would you rather it be Chloe or Eli, or any of your Hanson Brothers?"

I played it back a couple of times... but damn, I guess I can't handle the accent that well. He couldn't have said that, right...

"... or Lt. Johansen, perhaps?" You know, T.J. The one he knocked up.

 

[L8Nite]

They really need to dump a few of the actors. I've been an avid SG fan since the original movie and this show is just pathetic.

The finale finally picked up a little but come on they're fighting humans from their own galaxy? Couldn't they have come up with something better? What happened to the aliens they finally did meet?

I had so much hope for this but it seems more like a second rate ripoff of Battlestar Galactica with bad actors and shallow writers.

Hopefully there will be some big changes to the script and actors and I can actually look forward to watching it again.

 

[David cgc]

Couldn't they have come up with something better? What happened to the aliens they finally did meet?

They cost money, and also don't talk.

 

[nickyboy]

I enjoyed it but struggled to get past the stupid errors that the characters made to advance the story. Like Young not dumping the atmosphere in the last episode.

Now with part 2 things got a bit dubious just letting the LA call the shots and eventually take over the ship

It was still an enjoyable episode

 

[hxclespaulplayer]

First of all, man am I sick of the clips they use for the opening. It's worse than "In every generation there is a slayer"... seriously... "for the good of the ship", "I wonder what camp is the better choice", they keep playing a bunch of shit that isn't particularly relevant. Kind of obnoxious.

+1, I can recite "This is what Destiny intended from the moment it entered the star system", "he and Young are bumping heads, yes", etc etc, more easily than the national anthem!

 

[Hermiod]

5/10.

Not terrible but I've seen Dog Day Afternoon enough times to know how these hostage stories go. As expected, it required the good guys to do a lot of dumb things in order for the plot to work.

Let's face it, the Lucian Alliance doesn't expect Scott and Greer to live so they'll not count them as a threat anymore, and that will be their fatal mistake.

 

[TheInsideMan]

First of all, man am I sick of the clips they use for the opening. It's worse than "In every generation there is a slayer"... seriously... "for the good of the ship", "I wonder what camp is the better choice", they keep playing a bunch of shit that isn't particularly relevant. Kind of obnoxious.

+1, I can recite "This is what Destiny intended from the moment it entered the star system", "he and Young are bumping heads, yes", etc etc, more easily than the national anthem!

+1

"I'M TELLING YOU THIS SHIP CAME HERE FOR A REASON!!!!"

 

[JarodRussell]

Couldn't they have come up with something better? What happened to the aliens they finally did meet?

They cost money, and also don't talk.

And were left behind in the other galaxy.

 

[TheInsideMan]

This show has been improving but......this whole LA story has resulted in a dip of quality, IMO.

Finales are supposed to be exciting and have WTF!?! and OhMyGod! moments, moments which have you begging to see what happens next season. We've had none of these moments. Its been too predictable and at times, too slow.

Part 2 was better than Part 1, but not by much.

 

[JarodRussell]

This show has been improving but......this whole LA story has resulted in a dip of quality, IMO.

Finales are supposed to be exciting and have WTF!?! and OhMyGod! moments, moments which have you begging to see what happens next season. We've had none of these moments. Its been too predictable and at times, too slow.

Part 2 was better than Part 1, but not by much.

With "We" you mean "I", don't you?

 

[Kitty Worrier]

I felt very 'meh' about this episode, even more so than the first part. I also find I just don't care who lives and dies, so I guess the cliffhanger wasn't compelling at all for me.

Of course, the preview shows us that the military doesn't get killed the moment the LA enter the room, so that kind of ruins the last moment of the episode.

I guess I'll be back in the fall to see what happens. And I'll stick with the show, as long as we get rid of these stupid LA in the premire.

Oh, I hope to god that Kiva dumbass is dead.

 

[Valandil]

Absolutely loved this episode.

9/10.