truTrek TV series? New movie?

[DataLives]

Hello,

For those who disliked the Abrams movie:

Do you think we will ever have another TV series or film based within the real Star Trek timeline?

I would love to see one last TNG film, but, I realise that is unlikely.

What about a movie based on the Reeves-Stevens book Federation?

What about a TV series with Captain Riker aboard the Titan, based on the novels?

What about a TV series from the viewpoint of some NEW captain aboard a NEW star ship? Starfleet is massive, let's look at it from the lower decks of some other ship!

What about a Firefly - United Federation of Planets cross-over!? (just kidding.... kind of)

There are dozens of ships and space stations. There are dozens of good novels and hundreds of good ideas......

Will we ever have another on-screen incarnation of real Star Trek?

Is anyone hopeful?

DataLives.

 

[Shazam!]

I think the selling point of Trek XI was Kirk and Spock; I just can't imagine a new TV series succeeding without those characters. I don't think the movie cast would ever sign up to a TV series so I personally believe that they'll be recast, Stargate style.

If they decided upon a new TV series a new crew, you have to ask "what was the point in 'rebooting'?". A new crew flying around in their spaceship could just as easily work in the Prime universe and in many ways would be more fan friendly in that cameos from existing Trek characters and actors could be incorporated.

 

[Lord Garth]

^ There's one slight problem though.

If Kirk and Spock (doesn't matter if they're a different Kirk and Spock) are on television with new episodes every week for free, then why would someone want to pay to go see them in the theater?

People went to see Star Trek (2009) because it was seen as an event. Something special that doesn't happen every week. A new series with the same characters would dilute the effectiveness of the movies.

It's the same reason why there hasn't been a live-action series starring Batman.

Personally, I'm not even in favor of even having the movies or the series being part of the same continuity because then writers have to worry about how one affects the other. I think the next series should either take place in the first continuity or in a third continuity. Then it frees up the movies completely to do whatever they want without having to worry about anything concurrent.

 

[The Wormhole]

If a new Trek series were to air on TV, I think the best approach would be to advance it to the 25th century, and go back to basics in a way by having it set on board a ship named Enterprise that explores space, deals with aliens and all that jazz.

The 25th century would be far enough after all the other shows that you basically have a blank slate, but you can still throw in the occasional continuity referance for those fans of the previous shows to enjoy. And going back to basics allows the show to serve as a new beginning as such. The potential for success by this method has recentally been proven already in Trek with TNG, and is similar to Doctor Who's relaunch in 2005, which is also proven successful.

 

[Shazam!]

^ There's one slight problem though.

If Kirk and Spock (doesn't matter if they're a different Kirk and Spock) are on television with new episodes every week for free, then why would someone want to pay to go see them in the theater?

When I said 'Stargate style' I kinda meant post-movies.

I agree though that a TV show and movies running concurrently isn't the greatest idea unless they TNGup the TV show by setting it in another time-frame, but if you're gonna set it in another time-frame then you may as well just set it in the Prime universe.

 

[Skywalker]

TruTrek? Really?

 

[Temis the Vorta]

If they decided upon a new TV series a new crew, you have to ask "what was the point in 'rebooting'?".

To raise the profile of the Star Trek brand and remove the odium of "failure" for the benefit of the audience, and more importantly, the bean counters who would approve or squelch any new TV series or, for that matter, any new movie.

Now that Abrams has accomplished that task, Star Trek doesn't really need Kirk, Spock or Enterprise to succeed. Abrams has made Star Trek itself - the brand name - a valuable and successful entity again.

And that was the point of the reboot (from a business perspective).

Do you think we will ever have another TV series or film based within the real Star Trek timeline?

Ever is a long time. But for now, the original Star Trek timeline still has the odium of failure upon it, and though it's unfair, now that the Star Trek brand name itself has been cleared of complicity in causing that failure, the onus falls on the original timeline as the thing that "nobody wants to see" and was responsible for the failure to begin with.

Because if the timeline isn't at fault, then what exactly is the reason that Abrams' movie succeeded while ENT, Nemesis, etc flopped? And you have to phrase your answer in a 30 second elevator pitch because nobody who makes decisions is going to listen to or care remotely about some long-winded explanation how Berman & Braga sucked because etc etc and etc.

 

[Kelso]

I'd be perfectly content for none of the future productions to share continuity.

I'm in it for the space adventure, thanks, not trying to build a religion.

 

[I am not Spock]

It will never happen. We won't see the Prime Universe on screen again. It's about as likely as Connery or Brosnan doing another Bond film, or Adam West doing another Batman series. As much as I'd like to see what Picard or Janeway or the Sisko are up to, it won't happen.

The new film is the start of a new chapter for Trek. For now, at least, it seems that we will have several years wait between films. And that isnt necessarily a bad thing. Making Trek a biannual event, rather than a show every week, sounds like a good idea for the well being of the franchise.

 

[DonIago]

This thread would have a lot more credibility, IMO, if it didn't contain disparaging phrases like "TruTrek" and "real timeline".

People should be allowed to like the new movie without being villified by those who didn't, and vice versa.

 

[Joshua Howard]

I'm not in the camp of "anti-Nutrekkers." Nevertheless, I am quite attached to the traditional timeline, and would be quite happy if we could see something along the lines of a 25th Century Federation coming to life. It would be a New Century for a New Century; the Third Generation.

If I had my way, the NuTrek series - perhaps a movie trilogy - would end with a final reformation back to the original timeline, and a final sendoff starring the new XI cast, the TOS era cast who are still living, and the TNG cast. I'm thinking of something almost like a CGI-glorified, 2+ hour full feature in the spirit of "All Good Things" ushering fandom into the 25th Century.

The new franchise - after XI and its sequels - would take place in the 25th Century aboard a new Enterprise F, with an all new cast and crew.

The question - Ferengi Style - is, where is the profit in that? My suggestion is that the franchise should be headed by someone with strong rooted socio-political convictions. Star Trek has always succeeded partly because it had a certain heavy-handed Roddenberry propaganda message embedded in it.

Star Trek, in whatever form, must remember that it isn't just a show set against the backdrop of space. It is a passionate painting of what we are trying to work toward. It is bold. It has a political edge. It uses allegory to deal with things that everybody cares about and nobody talks about. That is Star Trek.

What is new in the 25th Century? The possibility of a trade-based war with the Klingon Empire? An uneasy alliance with the Romulans? How about a first-ever Trek TV show that shows us what business, politics, and life on earth is like in 500 years?

What would the Enterprise F do? Exploration is old school. War is even a bit old school for the norm. Border Patrol? That sounds interesting. Rumor has it that the Federation's border is absolutely MASSIVE. The NCC-1701-F could be part of a border survey team of ships which would travel between the outer extents of the Federation. The theme of a new TV show could be border friction, battles over territory, and the eventual unification of the Federation with the Vulcan, Romulus, an Klingon Empires.

Right now people are concerned about what is going to happen to the world between now and the end of the 21st century. Trek writers need to capitalize on that. Things like "National Debt" and "China" should be distilled into exciting new Sci-Fi content. If the viewers relate to it and like the picture it paints, it will inspire them. Once that happens, the franchise is in good shape again.

 

[C.E. Evans]

I think the next Trek series will be an animated one set in it's own continuity and aimed at a younger audience. I think Trek has reached the point where--like the Batman and Spider-man franchises--that it will now exist in multiple versions rather than multiple spinoffs, IMO...

 

[Traveller]

Well, AbramsTrek is the "true" Trek now, like it or not. I think that we'll have only movies in the next years and that we'll only get another series if the movies make enough money. So go watch them, even if you don't like them

What I'd like to see would be a Myriad Universes series... a bit like Sliders with a crew travelling through the AUs, but spending more than one episode in each universe (perhaps only two AUs per season). You wouldn't have to worry so much about continuity and get to explore many more scenarios. That would be fun to watch!

 

[Shazam!]

The NCC-1701-F could be part of a border survey team of ships which would travel between the outer extents of the Federation. The theme of a new TV show could be border friction, battles over territory, and the eventual unification of the Federation with the Vulcan, Romulus, an Klingon Empires.

Right now people are concerned about what is going to happen to the world between now and the end of the 21st century. Trek writers need to capitalize on that. Things like "National Debt" and "China" should be distilled into exciting new Sci-Fi content.

That sounds like a total snooze-fest. I'd have a ship exporing strange new worlds and hooking up with scantily clad bitches, weird aliens and planets and uncovering nefarious shit. It'd be a real throwback to 60s sci-fi with clunky looking robots and beehive hair-dos.

 

[Traveller]

That sounds like a total snooze-fest. I'd have a ship exporing strange new worlds and hooking up with scantily clad bitches, weird aliens and planets and uncovering nefarious shit. It'd be a real throwback to 60s sci-fi with clunky looking robots and beehive hair-dos.

I don't think it would attract a big audience. And if I want cheesy 60s-style scifi, I watch TOS.

 

[Shazam!]

I think it would attract a larger an audience than a series about border disputes.

 

[Traveller]

^Not if the border patrol consists of scantily clad robot chicks...

 

[Shazam!]

I can live with that.

 

[SilentP]

That sounds like a total snooze-fest. I'd have a ship exporing strange new worlds and hooking up with scantily clad bitches, weird aliens and planets and uncovering nefarious shit. It'd be a real throwback to 60s sci-fi with clunky looking robots and beehive hair-dos.

There's something about the phrase 'nefarious shit' that makes me smile.

As to which would be more successful, I have no idea, but I'd have a feeling that while it would be fun to go down the route Shazam! suggests, it could easily end up retreading threads, tropes and cliches the other shows have done already. Though the border wars/unification idea has the problem that it'll be hard for people who are new to the franchise to become quickly emotionally invested in the races.

 

[Traveller]

^Hey, what about my TrekSliders idea? Myriad Universes is a cool series!