If Star Trek Has A Disappointing Box Office...?

[KirkusOveractus]

^ It's that attitude that killed Trek the first go-round.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I am not understanding the point here. Are you saying we should not want star trek to gain a larger audience?

No if it means radically altering the fictional universes backstory.

Too late. It's done.

 

[Dayton3]

^ It's that attitude that killed Trek the first go-round.

What killed Star Trek was bad writing and a total lack of respect for the original.

 

[Dayton3]

I am not understanding the point here. Are you saying we should not want star trek to gain a larger audience?

No if it means radically altering the fictional universes backstory.

Too late. It's done.

What's done can be undone.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

^ It's that attitude that killed Trek the first go-round.

What killed Star Trek was bad writing and a total lack of respect for the original.

...and the desire to be slavishly devoted to a so-called continuity which only handcuffed producers, writers and directors, as well as keeping more and more of a new audience out.

As for "what's done can be undone", you're making no sense. You do realize that there is a movie starting tonight in general release that signals that it will not be undone.

150 Million reasons why it can't.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

From Deadline Hollywood:

Fandango surveyed more than 4,000 moviegoers planning to see Star Trek and found: 83% plan to see the movie on opening weekend; 10% plan to show up at the theater in some kind of Star Trek costume; 48% are fans of producer-director JJ Abrams; 47% are fans of Heroes star Zachary Quinto; and 67% are male.

There it is...most tickets are going to JJ fans and Zach fans. That's the draw, not the subject matter.

 

[Blue_Trek]

Impossible I say.

Why?

The proof is in the link

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=startrek.htm

 

[SalvorHardin]

From Deadline Hollywood:

Fandango surveyed more than 4,000 moviegoers planning to see Star Trek and found: 83% plan to see the movie on opening weekend; 10% plan to show up at the theater in some kind of Star Trek costume; 48% are fans of producer-director JJ Abrams; 47% are fans of Heroes star Zachary Quinto; and 67% are male.

There it is...most tickets are going to JJ fans and Zach fans. That's the draw, not the subject matter.

And ?

The point is that they will come... and if they like the movie they will become fans of the subject matter too.

Next

 

[SalvorHardin]

Impossible I say.

Why?

The proof is in the link

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=startrek.htm

Proof of what exactly ?

 

[darkwing_duck1]

...and the desire to be slavishly devoted to a so-called continuity which only handcuffed producers, writers and directors

Only the WRONG producers, writers and directors. Four words that prove this: Manny Coto and Reeves-Stevens

as well as keeping more and more of a new audience out.

Again, only the WRONG ones.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

From Deadline Hollywood:

There it is...most tickets are going to JJ fans and Zach fans. That's the draw, not the subject matter.

And ?

The point is that they will come... and if they like the movie they will become fans of the subject matter too.

Next

Your proof? They aren't TREK fans, they're Abrams and Quintino fans.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

as well as keeping more and more of a new audience out.

Again, only the WRONG ones.

Can you clarify what you mean here?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Well, there probably are more Abrams fans in America than there are hardcore Star Trek fans.

 

[Dayton3]

^ It's that attitude that killed Trek the first go-round.

What killed Star Trek was bad writing and a total lack of respect for the original.

...and the desire to be slavishly devoted to a so-called continuity which only handcuffed producers, writers and directors, as well as keeping more and more of a new audience out.

As for "what's done can be undone", you're making no sense. You do realize that there is a movie starting tonight in general release that signals that it will not be undone.

150 Million reasons why it can't.

Oh please.

For most of the Trek series producers, continuity was a joke.

 

[Aragorn]

This looks to be just another case of "what I personally think Trek should be is the only true acceptable way of Trek and everyone else is a doodoo head."

 

[KirkusOveractus]

"For most of the Trek series producers, continuity was a joke. "

^ and for most of Trek's fans, continuity is a religion.

 

[superdeluxe]

From Deadline Hollywood:

Fandango surveyed more than 4,000 moviegoers planning to see Star Trek and found: 83% plan to see the movie on opening weekend; 10% plan to show up at the theater in some kind of Star Trek costume; 48% are fans of producer-director JJ Abrams; 47% are fans of Heroes star Zachary Quinto; and 67% are male.

There it is...most tickets are going to JJ fans and Zach fans. That's the draw, not the subject matter.

You can't be a fan of the subject matter and either abrams/quinto?

 

[Blue_Trek]

I am not understanding the point here. Are you saying we should not want star trek to gain a larger audience?

No if it means radically altering the fictional universes backstory.

Too late. It's done.

Sorry but with this type of showing, I will gladly take the alterations and get more movies, clearly the other way wasn't working. You must admit that.
Star Trek: Nemesis $43,254,409

 

[Dayton3]

I am not understanding the point here. Are you saying we should not want star trek to gain a larger audience?

No if it means radically altering the fictional universes backstory.

Too late. It's done.

Sorry but with this type of showing, I will gladly take the alterations and get more movies, clearly the other way wasn't working. You must admit that.
Star Trek: Nemesis $43,254,409

Nemesis was a terrible movie. As was Insurrection, Generations, First Contact was average.

 

[Dayton3]

This looks to be just another case of "what I personally think Trek should be is the only true acceptable way of Trek and everyone else is a doodoo head."

I thought all fans felt this way.

After all "fan" is short for "fanatic".

And "fanatics" are not known for openess variations on what they enjoy.