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If Star Trek Has A Disappointing Box Office...?

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This thing needs to make at least $300 million to break even, so even a $100 million gross qualifies as a bomb.

How do you figure? That seems a little excessive for a movie that's budgeted at $150 Million.

Sorry, I'd take your word for it but you just made some stuff up half an hour ago.

I think he is figuring that because though the studio will spend all of the 150 million to make the movie...the studios only get a fraction of the total box office in return. Sometimes as low as one third. Individual theatres and others get the rest.
Why is this MYTH still around. Movie theaters MAKE MOST OF THEIR MONEY OFF CONCESSIONS...

Most of the Ticket Sales go for the costs of RENTING the film from the studio.... Yes that's right the Studios charge for the cost of sending the reels to the Movie theaters. About 75 percent of the ticket

An article I found using google

How Movie Theaters Make Money

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I’ve been planning on writing about this ever since I ran a poll on whether or not you sneak food or drinks into the movie theater, but I never got around to it. However, we recently went to Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End (or P3 as my oldest son likes to call it) and that got me to thinking about it once again…

Have you ever wondered how theaters make money? Well, according to a slightly dated article from CNN/Money:
“Most of the money from ticket sales goes back to the movie studio… During the film’s opening week, the studio might take 70 to 80 percent of gross box office sales. By the fifth or sixth week, the percentage the studio takes will likely shrink to about 35 percent.”
Of course, studios also pay theaters to run trailers (generally on a per head basis), and the ads that are shown on the screen before the movie (or mixed in with the trailers) are another source of income. But according to Howard Edelman, owner of Movieland Cinemas:
“Owners joke about being in the candy business. If you didn’t have concessions at a movie theater, there would be no movie theater. We have movies just to get people in to buy popcorn and candy, where we make our money.”
In fact, concessions are so profitable that outside companies will sometimes pay an up-front fee for the privilege of running the concession stand and splitting the profits with the theater owner.
So does this change my view of sneaking snacks into the theater? Not really. The day we went to see P3, the theater was well over half empty. Even if the owners were getting a small cut, say 20-30% of the ticket prices, they still pocketed $6-$9 from our $30 matinee ticket purchase (plus a bit of extra cash from having a few additional butts in the seats for the trailers). Had we skipped the theater, they still wouldn’t have sold any additional concessions, our seats would have been empty, and they would’ve ended up missing out the ticket revenue entirely.
Am I rationalizing? Sure, I guess you could say that. Could we have simply skipped the snack? Yep, but we rarely go to the theater, and when we do we like to live it up a bit. Besides, it’s not like theaters have a plethora of healthy snack choices at the concession stand. In the end, I view it as a win-win situation.
 
I'm curious and don't have the patience to search, but have you seen the movie?

With MattJC MIA, he's the new No. 1 resident hater. Maybe because he's approaching midlife crisis.

Why is this MYTH still around. Movie theaters MAKE MOST OF THEIR MONEY OFF CONCESSIONS...

You do know where you're posting, right? :p

Facts are merely whatever we feel like posting that "fully supports" our argument.
 
Am I rationalizing? Sure, I guess you could say that. Could we have simply skipped the snack? Yep, but we rarely go to the theater, and when we do we like to live it up a bit. Besides, it’s not like theaters have a plethora of healthy snack choices at the concession stand. In the end, I view it as a win-win situation.
Which is exactly why I don't have a problem with concession prices... except candy. Sorry but I ain't paying $3 for a box of Hot Tamales that I can buy for a $1 and my wife can sneak in her purse. :)
 
From Deadline Hollywood:

Fandango reports that Star Trek is currently selling 81% of all its online tickets. With JJ Abram's reimagining of the veteran franchise opening around 7 PM Thursday night, the pic has sold out more than 100 opening weekend show times across the country. In the Los Angeles area alone, Thursday night screenings keep being added. The Bridge has a total of 15 screenings tomorrow, starting as early as 7:10 PM, plus three screenings in their IMAX theater starting at 7 PM.

MovieTickets.com says 44% of all its Star Trek ticket sales are for IMAX screenings. The movie will open for a limited 2-week run in 134 IMAX theatres domestically on Thursday. The film will also open in 29 IMAX theatres internationally.

There are also some interesting polls. MovieTickets.com found that, among almost 6,000 moviegoers, 32% have never seen a Star Trek movie, while 10% have seen all 10 Star Trek movies.

Fandango surveyed more than 4,000 moviegoers planning to see Star Trek and found: 83% plan to see the movie on opening weekend; 10% plan to show up at the theater in some kind of Star Trek costume; 48% are fans of producer-director JJ Abrams; 47% are fans of Heroes star Zachary Quinto; and 67% are male.
 
For comparison:

Batman Begins
Production Budget: $150 million
Domestic Total Gross: $205,343,774
Worldwide: $372,710,015

So WB greenlit The Dark Knight on the strength of a $205M domestic take. I presume if Trek makes these numbers, we'll see a sequel. As I understand it, Trek does not do as well overseas, so those numbers might be in doubt.

Source: Box Office Mojo
 
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It will be interesting to see to what extent "Abrams fandom" carries over from Lost to the opening weekend of this flick - if there's a way to measure that.
 
It will be interesting to see to what extent "Abrams fandom" carries over from Lost to the opening weekend of this flick - if there's a way to measure that.

Somewhat related to this, I wonder if Trek (thanks to Quinto) would attract even more people if Heroes still had the quality, ratings and media attention it had back in season 1.
 
Star Trek will die forever if this movie flops. TPTB will probably do anything , but blame themselves Paramount will rape Indiana Jones agian and make 9 Iron Man's and in 30-50 years from now one of our grandchildren who we forced to watch Star Trek and Star Wars and listen to The Beatles and Nirvana as a kid will be as much in love with these things as adults as we are and will grow up to be writters,directors and poducers and will convince the studio to do a tv. series or movie which will return it to it's roots and be the perfect movie or tv.series we alway's hoped for, but updated and some will complain and some will like it and some won't know what to thing and they will be talking on thier hologram thingie magiggers, which we won't figure out how to use cause we are old then finally Star Trek will be braught back to life and create another 40 years of cannon and bad decission making and bad writting will lead to another reboot , then over time the cannon will turn into true mythology and people will name thier kids Kirk and Spock and all the names will become common until we get to a couple of hundred years from now when we make contact with real aliens that sort of do look and act like Vulcans and then things will get so twisted that life imitates art and there really is a federation and an Enterprise and Kirk and Spock will really exist and Spock will travel back in time in order to see what his ancesters were like and oh my god!... my DVD's just disapear like Marty Mcfly's family picture in back to the future, did your's?Sorry just got caried away:)

I could not actually read that.

Hunter - remember ...... punctuation is your friend.
Whatever!(in my best Rosie Perez voice,Waves finger)
 
If it disappoints, the'll go even cheaper than the current non household names and outsource to India and film it in Bollywood.
 
If it disappoints, the'll go even cheaper than the current non household names and outsource to India and film it in Bollywood.

Screw India.
Turkey has produced some epic Star Trek in the past.
Lets give it to them.
 
Not going to happen. There are 7pm and 10pm Thursday night shows because the midnight screenings SOLD OUT.

It's going to make money. LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY.
 
It will be interesting to see to what extent "Abrams fandom" carries over from Lost to the opening weekend of this flick - if there's a way to measure that.

Somewhat related to this, I wonder if Trek (thanks to Quinto) would attract even more people if Heroes still had the quality, ratings and media attention it had back in season 1.


I think it might have filled a few seats, 2 years ago. But now? Is anyone still watching that show? :lol:

But Abrams fandom....that is pretty hot, I think. I know that personally, I turned on Fringe due to Abrams. Wouldn't have even looked at it, otherwise.
 
If it's a flop Star Trek is dead ''N'' buried for-EVAH!

Star Trek is never going to completely die off. Popular brands always come back these days. Holywood would rather work with what was successful in the past then spend the time to come up with something new.

If the new movie fails, future live action Trek will just go on another hatius. Probably longer then the recent one. But in 10 or 15 years something else would be done. In the meantime, there would still be books and video games.

Hopefully, the first movie is a success. So we can see Trek's revival now. But even if it fails, all hope is not lost. Less popular Franchises have come back before.
 
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