I've tried to reproduce his way of putting on a coat, but all I managed to do was hurt my arm.
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I've Found The West Wing
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IMDB says his left arm is three inches shorter than his right/
I'll say this, it is interesting to see him do it.
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Just finished Season 3 and loved it but I was so gutted to what happened at the end with
though I was dissapointed how the whole e-mail bad guy storyline ended.
Love the President having to face a tough call to take someone out but he did the right thing. Met the Republican nominee, who is a total jackass especially the crime comment, which pissed Bartlett off, made me wanna shoot the right wing idiot.
No Danny in season 3 hope he returns.
Just finished Season 3 and loved it but I was so gutted to what happened at the end with
CJ's bodyguard (the dude from NCIS)
Love the President having to face a tough call to take someone out but he did the right thing. Met the Republican nominee, who is a total jackass especially the crime comment, which pissed Bartlett off, made me wanna shoot the right wing idiot.
No Danny in season 3
hope he returns.
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I was a bit disappointed with Bartlet's opponent in the re-election campaign. I know that Sorkin's goal in the series was to show intelligent, responsible, fair-minded government triumphing over those politicians who were driven by anti-intellectualism, cynicism, and self-interest, so he gave Bartlet an opponent that represented those things. But that made Ritchie too much of an easy mark. Heroes should be defined by the quality of their opposition. It would've made Bartlet come off even stronger and worthier if he'd earned a victory over a worthy candidate instead of this dimwitted jerk.
So while the post-Sorkin seasons were inferior in most ways, I did prefer their approach to an election campaign, choosing two equally worthy candidates.
I was a bit disappointed with Bartlet's opponent in the re-election campaign. I know that Sorkin's goal in the series was to show intelligent, responsible, fair-minded government triumphing over those politicians who were driven by anti-intellectualism, cynicism, and self-interest, so he gave Bartlet an opponent that represented those things. But that made Ritchie too much of an easy mark. Heroes should be defined by the quality of their opposition. It would've made Bartlet come off even stronger and worthier if he'd earned a victory over a worthy candidate instead of this dimwitted jerk.
So while the post-Sorkin seasons were inferior in most ways, I did prefer their approach to an election campaign, choosing two equally worthy candidates.
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I don't think it is too big of a spoiler to tell you that he does indeed return in the fourth season and he plays a big role leading up to that-thing-that-happens-at-the-end-of-season-four.
Ritchie was clearly an attempt at putting Bartlet up against a Bush like character, especially the way he was characterised in 20 Hours in America. The 2006 election was indeed much better due to both characters being likeable and intelligent. It seemed like the Obama/McCain election before Palin came along and dragged down the Republican ticket with all that "Obama is linked to terrorists" bullshit.
No Danny in season 3
I don't think it is too big of a spoiler to tell you that he does indeed return in the fourth season and he plays a big role leading up to that-thing-that-happens-at-the-end-of-season-four.
Christopher said:
Ritchie was clearly an attempt at putting Bartlet up against a Bush like character, especially the way he was characterised in 20 Hours in America. The 2006 election was indeed much better due to both characters being likeable and intelligent. It seemed like the Obama/McCain election before Palin came along and dragged down the Republican ticket with all that "Obama is linked to terrorists" bullshit.
At the end of In God We Trust I wanted Vinick to win, and the only reason I supported Santos in the end is because I really wanted Josh to be CoS. 
Great show. I found it after it's TV run on DVD. I'm currently just starting season 6. Seasons 1-4 were great. I was dissapointed with the beginning of season 5, but by the end it got better. I think the main problem with 5 is that the humor was gone. The show got really serious and dark. One of the things I love about WW, and really surprised me when I started watching the show, was how funny it was.
Hopefully season 6 will be better.
Hopefully season 6 will be better.
I just realized a huge mistake.
In season 2 they have the episode titled, "The Third State of the Union", however it would only be his second. In season 3 CJ says it's the president's first veto in 33 months of being in office. That would mean the episode takes place in October of 2001, so he would have given a State of the Union in January 2000, and January 2001 because you don't give one the first year you are in office.
Someone didn't do their math.
The second half of season 6 does get a lot better, and the return to funny and smart TV.
In season 2 they have the episode titled, "The Third State of the Union", however it would only be his second. In season 3 CJ says it's the president's first veto in 33 months of being in office. That would mean the episode takes place in October of 2001, so he would have given a State of the Union in January 2000, and January 2001 because you don't give one the first year you are in office.
Someone didn't do their math.
The second half of season 6 does get a lot better, and the return to funny and smart TV.
Just watched "The Supremes"... guest starring Glenn Close, William Fichtner, and Robert Picardo as Supreme Court candidates.
Aside from "Shutdown" this was perhaps the best Season 5 episode so far.
Aside from "Shutdown" this was perhaps the best Season 5 episode so far.
Supremes was an incredible episode. Should listen to the commentary.
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I always wondered about the coat thing. I just saw an episode where he flips it over with CJ right next to him and he whacks her hair and face with the coat whipping past and the actress tries not to flinch and react as the scene goes on, it was pretty amusing.
I thought it was deliberate in that scene, since CJ was just promoted to Chief of Staff and she was a bit off her game
I finished season seven last night (at about five in the night/morning).
It's really one of the best series ever, IMO.
I have always been a fan of West Wing. Back when I was in college, they would air 2-3 episodes in the morning and I'd always watch them during my lunch break before class.
One of my favorite eps is when Bartlett decides to run for re-election.
One of my favorite eps is when Bartlett decides to run for re-election.
Did you notice that one of the things the Santos-campaign wanted to bring back to the US was 'Hope'?
Or that one of the slogans the Vinick-campaign used was 'Yes, America can'?
Funny
Santos was based loosely on Obama, I think the writers have openly talked about that. My favorite is while watching the show you go "Well this would never happen in real life", and then this past election things happened and made me think "Just like West Wing". The last year of politics was amazingly close to West Wing, and if you wrote a book about it no one would believe you.
Just finished the re-election in season 4 and while of course I knew he was going to win, I was left a little wanting. I would of prefered more time focus on the elections and more debates, it all felt rushed and in the end he won very easy, too easy IMO. The Republican rival was not that smart and was not a worthy challenger. What we did get to see was good stuff though so not all bad just short.
Not only was Santos based on Obama, but Vinick was partly inspired by McCain. Also, Josh Lyman, who was based on Rahm Emanuel, ended up being Santos's chief of staff. And Santos appointed his former rival Vinick as Secretary of State, just as Obama appointed his former rival Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State. (Okay, that one's not a perfect analogy.)
Not to mention the similar primaries: the Republican nominee getting chosen early, beating out competitors including an ordained minister, and the Democratic fight extending for months, to the point that pundits and advisors were insisting that it would hurt the Democrats and cost them the election. Except the real primaries didn't extend to a convention floor fight as they did in the show.
Not to mention the similar primaries: the Republican nominee getting chosen early, beating out competitors including an ordained minister, and the Democratic fight extending for months, to the point that pundits and advisors were insisting that it would hurt the Democrats and cost them the election. Except the real primaries didn't extend to a convention floor fight as they did in the show.
Bush wasn't smart either.
Also, if they'd laboured over whether or not Bartlet would win re-election, it'd be pretty tame. Obviously if he lost, the show would end. They handled it the only way they could, and I thought it was pretty gutsy to dispense with faux drama and suspense and go with the landslide victory.
The majority of seasons six and seven focus on the election to succeed Bartlet, and as far as I am concerned they did a damn fine job representing a US Presidential election. It didn't even bother me so much that the show wasn't focusing on The West Wing anymore.
When the Russians attacked Georgia back in August I was nearly ready to put on my tinfoil hat and hide in a bunker just in case a nuclear plant in the US went the way of San Andreo.
Slate-V had a video podcast on this (with Eli Attie, I think?). It stated that yes, Santos was based on Obama, but, no, Vinnick wasn't a McCain surrogate. He was simply the best Republican candidate the writers could come up with in order for Santos to have legitimate competition.
Exactly, it also makes up for season 3-4 election, that election needed to have a dumbass so Barlett can beat him without a problem.
I really wish Walker would have played a bigger role in season 6, even just for an episode or so while he was running.
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