Why switch to Kirk from Pike?

[Balthier the Great]

Well, remember Kelley also had pronunciation problems with the name of the monster in "A Private Little War", so they had to change it from "Gumato" to "Mugato".

How was that supposed to be read? I'm looking at it and I'd probably say "guh may toe". Unless it's "Gum aah toe".

 

[Therin of Andor]

He identified himself to the illusory colonists on Talos as "Captain Christopher Pike, United Space Ship Enterprise." When trying to speak to the Talosians, he said, "My name is Christopher Pike, commander of the space vehicle Enterprise, from the stellar group at the other end of this galaxy" (talk about your hyperbole). He's referred to as "Captain Pike" during the briefing-room scene and as "Mr. Pike" in the Orion slave girl illusion.

Yep. The bound version of Gene Roddenberry's script of "The Cage", sold recently via Roddenberry.com as part of their complete set of TOS scripts, called the captain "Robert Winter", but I seem to recall reading that the actual shooting scripts had the pencilled correction, "Pike", on them. And, of course, "April" and "Spring" were tossed around at various times, among others.

 

[trevanian]

Well, remember Kelley also had pronunciation problems with the name of the monster in "A Private Little War", so they had to change it from "Gumato" to "Mugato".

How was that supposed to be read? I'm looking at it and I'd probably say "guh may toe". Unless it's "Gum aah toe".

Guhmahtoe, tomatoe, let's call the whole thing off. (picture a blood-red mugato being stepped on by a giant Uma Thurman, who then calls it ketchup.)

 

[Therin of Andor]

Guhmahtoe, tomatoe, let's call the whole thing off. (picture a blood-red mugato being stepped on by a giant Uma Thurman, who then calls it ketchup.)

You realise the first ST movie was going to be "Attack of the Killer Gumatoes", don't you?

 

[trevanian]

Guhmahtoe, tomatoe, let's call the whole thing off. (picture a blood-red mugato being stepped on by a giant Uma Thurman, who then calls it ketchup.)

You realise the first ST movie was going to be "Attack of the Killer Gumatoes", don't you?

I thought it was Planet of the Titan(ic) Tomatoes.

 

[Red Ranger]

People,

You do realize that if the character name stayed the same, Captain Pike, and Shatner was the second person to play Pike, we would have threads today debating the two actors' merits, kind of like the "two Darrens" debate on Bewitched!

Red Ranger

 

[Christopher]

Recasting a different actor in the same role? Why, ST would never do that!

 

[Ronald Held]

You must be not serious Christopher....

 

[ClayinCA]

You must be not serious Christopher....

I think it's pretty clear that Christopher is kidding.

 

[EEE]

... kind of like the "two Darrens" debate on Bewitched!

What debate? How could there be a debate? There is nothing to debate there. How can there be a debate about something everyone is aware of! *twinkle-twinkle-snort*

 

[Therin of Andor]

What debate? How could there be a debate? There is nothing to debate there.

The debate is "Which is the better Darren", no?

 

[Christopher]

^^I'm apparently one of the few who prefers Dick Sargent.

 

[Brian]

I thought they both had their good points, and didn't mind at all when they switched back and forth on a daily basis in syndication. They were both "Darren" to me.

 

[EEE]

What debate? How could there be a debate? There is nothing to debate there.

The debate is "Which is the better Darren", no?

There is still nothing to debate. The better of the two is OBVIOUS.

 

[Red Ranger]

What debate? How could there be a debate? There is nothing to debate there.

The debate is "Which is the better Darren", no?

There is still nothing to debate. The better of the two is OBVIOUS.

Yep. Dick York! -- RR

 

[Stag]

^^I'm apparently one of the few who prefers Dick Sargent.

Yeah, but who the heck can remember which Dick came first, Sargent or York?

I prefer the second one, which ever Dick he is.

 

[Christopher]

Sargent was second.

 

[Ronald Held]

Dick York, the first one.

 

[Red Ranger]

I always remembered York was first because of his bulging chin and eyes! -- RR

 

[Christopher]

They should make a TV movie about the substitution of Darrens and call it Sargent, York.