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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 4x07 - "Like Chronitons Through the Hourglass"

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never liked the character so I'd be just as happy if they let Trelane just be Trelane with no Q connection. I also with they'd just let Khan and his lineage untouched, but I never get what I want.
I did with Pike.

That's about as close I get to getting what I want.
 
The Borg literally did their whole spiel in ENT, mysteriously omitting the "We are the Borg" opening they say EVERY SINGLE TIME.
The Borg didn't say that line in their first appearance in TNG S2 Q-Who.

They found out they were callwd the Borg from Guinan.

The first time they started announcing "We are the Borg..." wax in TNG S3 Best of Both Worlds.

BoBW also gave us the "...Resistance is futile..." line for the first time too.
 
I've seen it mentioned a couple of times in the thread that those who don't like the soaps won't like this. Well not me. I hate soap operas but thought this episode was wonderfully funny regarding all that. I did watch Santa Barbara a bit because in high school I lived close to the school so would go home for lunch and it would be on. Cruz and company.

The only daytime soap I ever watched religiously was the original Dark Shadows back in the day, although I'll cop to watching General Hospital one summer because my best friend was hooked on it, so we always had to make sure we were in front of a tv at the appointed hour.

And just to bring this back to Star Trek, that was the summer John Colicos (aka "Kor") was out to destroy Port Charles with a freezing ray.

Really.
 
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My impression is that they toned down the flat over-lighting and other soap-operaish "tells" after the early part of the episode. Did anyone else think so?
 
On a practical level, no media tie-in novel is ever truly "canon" because the actual movies and tv shows can and will overwrite them if they see fit to do so. The tail does not wag the dog.

Not a complaint or criticism; that's just the nature of the beast.

And I say that as somebody who has been reading and enjoying media tie-in books for pretty much my entire life, and who has been writing and editing them professionally for decades now.

Done well, they can be a great way to get your Star Trek fix in book form -- even if they aren't "canon."
Got me through the lean times.
 
This episode just was annoying, with even Pike being annoyed by what was going on. (I do love his line of 'not another musical'... I'm with you there, Cris.)
I'm sure the line was are we in another musical? When he was trying to work out why he could hear musical cues.

If they did another one though they need to bring Mary Chieffo back.
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The 'Sybok' version of him was nothing like the actual Spock as he told her pretty firmly. It seems that she'd like to retain his commanding style, stoic surface and intelligence but she'd like him to be more exciting, more emotional, more in touch with his feelings, more sexy, bolder etc.... It made me chuckle because it was a bit of romance novel inspired version.
Reading how you put this, I wonder if it was a commentary on, or possibly just inspired by, early Trek fan fiction?
 
My impression is that they toned down the flat over-lighting and other soap-operaish "tells" after the early part of the episode. Did anyone else think so?
It seemed to me like it cut off at the specific point where Trelayne gets his coveted B- and rolls credits. With the sole (and notable) exception of Pike's scene with Juliet, which is lit normally. Possibly also true of the scene with Dr. Chivers that precedes it, I'm less sure about that one.
 
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My impression is that they toned down the flat over-lighting and other soap-operaish "tells" after the early part of the episode. Did anyone else think so?
To me honestly overall the lighting didn't seem that different. I know they mad a point of showing Pike's quarters change in lighting after Trelene ended his experiment, but it's not like they haven't used that level of Flat and Even lighting for both Sickbay and Pike's quarters before. Even when they had Pike specifically mention it in the opening, no it didn't strike me as a drastic lighting change overall. :shrug:
 
SNW's production aesthetic is already heightened, so I can see how the difference seems subtle to some viewers. I did notice it, though, especially the flat over-lighting and the very specific Soap Opera zooms on people's faces. There's also a very nice touch in the midst of the Sybok-La'An sequence where they "cut to commercial" and come back and Sybok repeats what he just said: classic Body-Cleansing Theater.

I think the only trick they missed -- a Days of Our Lives classic, but common on other shows as well -- was the classic soap "Dramatic Statement / Four to Six Alternating Shots of the Characters Staring at Each Other / Cut to Commercial" pattern.
 
The Borg didn't say that line in their first appearance in TNG S2 Q-Who.

They found out they were callwd the Borg from Guinan.

The first time they started announcing "We are the Borg..." wax in TNG S3 Best of Both Worlds.

BoBW also gave us the "...Resistance is futile..." line for the first time too.


Clearly, the Borg learned the value of branding sometime after "Q Who" . . . . decades after Archer's time. :)
 
As I recall, Peter David wanted to state definitely that Q was Trelane's father in the book, but Paramount asked him to keep it ambiguous. So Peter could only hint strongly that Q was Trelane's dad.

As for Q's various offspring, I'm assuming that Trelane and the Q Jr. from Voyager are different characters, sharing the same father.

Q Jr would then be the older brother to Trelane because I don't think Q had ever had sex until that Voyager episode.
 
My impression is that they toned down the flat over-lighting and other soap-operaish "tells" after the early part of the episode. Did anyone else think so?

Yes. I think the more Pike begin to realize the emotions going on where real and not fake the episode started to slowly become more or more like reality.
 
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