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Evidence of SNW being a possible alternate timeline from TOS

i still think that star trek strange new world is set in a new star trek universe that is almost alike to the original star trek universe

but in this new star trek universe there are many differences and changes like spock having many love interests laan being a descendent of khan sam kirk a member of starfleet
How would those differ from TOS? We don't know Spock's full relationship history. La'An is a new character. And we've no information on Sam Kirk's life beyond what Jim tells us in two episodes.
 
How would those differ from TOS? We don't know Spock's full relationship history. La'An is a new character. And we've no information on Sam Kirk's life beyond what Jim tells us in two episodes.
I think there is almost a game now of "focus on the differences" in Star Trek, rather than work with it.
 
This completely reminded me that sometimes SNW feels like an alternate timeline to itself. We got the impression that the loss of Rukiya's mom weighed heavily on M'Benga, and that there was a deeper story there. Then another episode had a throwaway line that M'Benga had 3 or 4 wives or something like that.

Is it inherently contradictory? No. But it feels like something hastily slapped together without thought for the sake of a punchline in the zombie episode and without care towards greater worldbuilding. If SNW can feel like that towards itself, I can sort of understand how some feel that SNW isn't organically feeling like a part of TOS.
TOS contradicted itself constantly, so SNW is just continuing the tradition.
 
This completely reminded me that sometimes SNW feels like an alternate timeline to itself. We got the impression that the loss of Rukiya's mom weighed heavily on M'Benga, and that there was a deeper story there. Then another episode had a throwaway line that M'Benga had 3 or 4 wives or something like that.

Is it inherently contradictory? No. But it feels like something hastily slapped together without thought for the sake of a punchline in the zombie episode and without care towards greater worldbuilding. If SNW can feel like that towards itself, I can sort of understand how some feel that SNW isn't organically feeling like a part of TOS.
I'm not seeing the issue here. He can still have cared very deeply for Rukiya's mother while still having been married to three other women. That's just life.
TOS contradicted itself constantly, so SNW is just continuing the tradition.
Hush you! We all know it was more difficult to keep things straight when there were only eighty episodes than it is now there's almost a thousand.
:lol: ;)
The sad part is, that's actually what some people have attempted to seriously argue in these discussions.
 
All Trek at some point has contradicted itself.

Norman… coordinate.
Heck, just in the two TOS pilot episodes the history of space travel was retconned. Warp drive was a recent invention (called time warp drive) in "The Cage" and in "WNMHGB" it's been around longer and early Earth ships were probing out to the galactic rim 200 years ago.
 
"Prime" is just a buzzword. Originally CBSAA used the term only to differentiate DSC from the KT films,
Prime was first used in the marketing for ST09 not Discovery, and Leonard Nimoy is credited as "Prime Spock" "Spock Prime" in the film's credits.

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IIRC Prime was also a pre-existing term in various fictions, usually meaning the original reality.

Hemmer was by far the best character on SNW. And they killed him off to make way for Simka In Space and then Scotty, because 'we gotta follow canon!!!'
That isn't why he was killed off, It was for the drama, not to get him out of the way.

If that were the case, Pelia would be gone already.
 
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Prime was first used in the marketing for ST09 not Discovery, and Leonard Nimoy is credited as "Prime Spock" "Spock Prime" in the film's credits.

IIRC Prime was also a pre-existing term in various fictions, usually meaning the original reality.

Uh, yes, I know this. Where did I say that CBSAA coined the term? I said that CBSAA used the term to refer to DSC as not taking place in the KT.

That isn't why he was killed off, It was for the drama, not to get him out of the way.

If that were the case, Pelia would be gone already.

Pelia is going to be gone, one way or another, to make way for Scotty to become chief engineer. It has nothing to do with drama; it has to do with artificially making way for another character to take their place.
 
I simply don't understand declarations like these. A reboot is a new universe to explore, a new way to look at the characters and something that can be built with a mind to the actual people Trek needs to survive. Could it stink? Sure. But I would at least sample it to see if it was to my liking. All the things that I know about 60's Trek would still be there. No one is going to sneak into my house to take my beatup copy of the Spaceflight Chronology or Worlds of the Federation.
To me a reboot would signal no imagination and laziness. Star Trek has the biggest sandbox of any IP for a writer to play with eg: the future, exploring the galaxy, numerous planets and cultures. You're telling me the best you can do is recycle the same old sh@t? Might as well rename it Kirks Travels if that's as far as the creative's imagination reaches.
 
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To me a reboot would signal no imagination and laziness. Star Trek has the biggest sandbox of any IP for a writer to play with eg: the future, exploring the galaxy, numerous planets and cultures. You're telling me the best you can do is recycle the same old sh@t? Might as well rename it Kirks Travels.

That might be true but at the end of the day, a series has to make money. To the masses, Star Trek is the Enterprise, Kirk, Spock and McCoy. The further you get away from that, the masses aren’t going to be interested. There has to be a balance between appeasing old fans and bringing in new fans.
 
Pelia is going to be gone, one way or another, to make way for Scotty to become chief engineer. It has nothing to do with drama; it has to do with artificially making way for another character to take their place.
She's going to run off to work on the transwarp project, with Scotty's dislike of her explaining his distaste for transwarp 20 years later and his eagerness to sabotage it.
 
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