Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x09 – “300th Night”

[Ray Hardgrit]

I'm making a statement that Star Trek has the kind of oddities of the Roman/Greek gods being real to explain inconsistencies like the fact that Klingon and Romulan homeworlds have Earth names versus them being localized names.

It's a sarcastic rejoinder that fans often try to make things make sense versus embracing the silliness.

That's because the silliness sucks and things making sense is ideal.

 

[CaptainWacky]

Uhura got 25 years of advanced education fed to her overnight, as drugs while she slept. It's questionable whether any of this is happening, and when the kids wake up that anyone should trust any of the relationships that their drugs tell them they must commit to.

Maybe it's all a simulation and Caleb passes his first year at the Academy by killing the simulation of his mother, like Troi having to kill holodeck Geordi that time.

I'd love to write a Trek episode with you, Guy.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Maybe it's all a simulation and Caleb passes his first year at the Academy by killing the simulation of his mother, like Troi having to kill holodeck Geordi that time.

I'd love to write a Trek episode with you, Guy.

With or with out 'shrooms?

 

[Turtletrekker]

Maybe it's all a simulation and Caleb passes his first year at the Academy by killing the simulation of his mother, like Troi having to kill holodeck Geordi that time.

I'd love to write a Trek episode with you, Guy.

Well, if we're proposing alternate scenarios, I think I'd rather that they had gone Grant Ward with Caleb and have him be the bad guy who infiltrated the Academy right from the start.

 

[TRON JA307020]

Voyager was a Khan rip-off then.

The Omega Particle was introduced in Voyager. How do you not know this.

I do know it. I saw the episode.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Might not be the same station. They just call what ever structure is there "Deep Space Nine."

That's what the old novel verse did when they blew up at the station in the books.

 

[BigJake]

I thought it was "your name sounds like music."

Yep. And the quote and the whole speech surrounding it sound considerably better when they are remembered/recounted accurately.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Yep. And the quote and the whole speech surrounding it sound considerably better when they are remembered/recounted accurately.

Agreed. Sometimes I honestly wonder if certain people actually are even watching the episodes.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Agreed. Sometimes I honestly wonder if certain people actually are even watching the episodes.

I don't wonder.

 

[Elaise]

In "Come, Let's Away", Braka is talking about the Federation in the present tense. I'm not saying the Federation ignored what was going on... I'm saying their arrogance and underestimating of Braka (and almost certainly of others we have not seen) led them to not consider him as large a threat as he should have been taken because they looked down at him. And historically, Starfleet and the Federation have been arrogant and condescending, so it is an established pattern of behavior.

Also, I can't believe it took Starfleet months to confirm omega was stolen... even worse is that confirmation seemed to happen ONLY because Braka used it in that empty sector. It definitely made Starfleet look either incompetent or were dragging their heels, and considering the base Braka broke into was such a classified high weapons place, it gives off more of an impression that they thought he couldn't use whatever he got so didn't bother to REALLY investigate hard and fast because they thought so little of him. Constantly underestimating an opponent is also a kind of arrogance.

I find it hard to believe that 2 years into their rebuilding phase they would be so arrogant to go lax on security. Why are they assuming that ships they seeing cruising around the edge or slightly in their space was Braka?

I would find it more believable if he said he took advantage of a state of rebuilding. Do we have a history of them after the burn of doing this? I wouldn't compare them to the federation from 800 years ago, they are simply not the same, especially post burn

I just listened to the clip and Vance said " it took months to confirm their worst fear" so did they not figure it out until he used the weapon? I'm not sure why you bring the federation's considerations on Braka so much. Their security for this stuff would be the same no matter who was coming at them. It's not like they raise or lower the security they use based on who happens to be going after it.

I would lean on incompetence more than anything else. i doubt they would be dragging their heels, they are trying to be as attractive as possible to other species so they will join. With all their most dangerous tech stolen in the hands of thieves, it does not make the federation look like a safe bet for their safety.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I find it hard to believe that 2 years into their rebuilding phase they would be so arrogant to go lax on security.

Uh, have you met Starfleet or the Federation.

 

[Elaise]

Uh, have you met Starfleet or the Federation.

Swing and a miss.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Swing and a miss.

It was a home run hit out of the park. Security sucks on Star Trek shows. This is a rock hard fact.

Had to correct my sportsball reference,

 

[Turtletrekker]

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[Dar70]

I thought it was "your name sounds like music."

Yeah someone just gave me the proper quote. ITS EVEN WORSE THAN I THOUGHT. Flowers was better. Oh my God... ...maybe Paul McCartney can do something with it....????

 

[The Wormhole]

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Always makes me smile that Odo had a padd with all the security screwups on the Enterprise D listed right on hand, as though he was just waiting to have that conversation with Worf.

 

[Dar70]

The Omega Particle was introduced in Voyager. How do you not know this.

To be fair Voyager ended TWO AND A HALF decades ago.

 

[Ovation]

Yeah someone just gave me the proper quote. ITS EVEN WORSE THAN I THOUGHT. Flowers was better. Oh my God... ...maybe Paul McCartney can do something with it....????

 

[Nerys Myk]

To be fair Voyage ended TWO AND A HALF decades ago.

I watched all of Voyager once. Most of the callbacks go over my head or at best trigger a vague memory.

 

[The Wormhole]

To be fair Voyage ended TWO AND A HALF decades ago.

Also to be fair, The Omega Directive aired two weeks before the episode everyone thinks should be referenced in SFA (Living Witness) and close to one year after an episode which was referenced last week (Real Life).