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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x06 – “Come, Let’s Away”

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Oh hey! They canonized Star Trek Star Charts! Now at last we have confirmation about the distances between various locations!
 
For the first few years of TNG I was frustrated by their disinterest in thinking about Data as a machine with an artificial intelligence. If they had, a lot of stories would have been a lot shorter, or thrown out altogether, because he was Superman. "Brothers" shocked me because Berman decided to scratch the surface there in a logical fashion.

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I eventually realized that this isn't what Star Trek does. Spock wasn't really conceived as an extraterrestrial, either, and there's never any disciplined follow-through regarding the premises the writers assign to such characters. "Amok Time" was the closest we got, for Spock; it was written by an honest-to-Gernsback science fiction author who was granted a lot of leeway.
 
Y'know, something just occurred to me... the shot B'Avi took to the chest shouldn't have been a kill shot for a Vulcan. Didn't TOS establish that the Vulcan heart is located approximately where a human's kidney is?
Liver.

I think a massive hit through the center of your chest would be a kill shot, no matter where your heart is,

Unless it's the old "managed to avoid hitting any major organs" trope. :lol:
 
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Oh I am aware of star trek ignoring those things before :hugegrin:but part of it was also that in the olden days tech was not as advanced, I don't think a lot of people in the 90s had computers. In deep space 9 people hand over their whole pads to hand in reports even towards the end of the 90s when email was already a thing.

It is just weird that even today such "mistakes" are made that commonly with today's knowledge and lore to build on, and well in her case it is more that they chose to be very specific that she is holographic, in which case I would expect a bit more care.

Also I love when those mistakes are made just by a lack of perspective since it gives some beautiful insight into the past in the foundation series people read paper newspapers and wear hats, along with all the dated behavior, non trek but the same "issue"
 
...I don't think a lot of people in the 90s had computers...
And you'd be wrong. Early to mid 90s was the home PC boom. And no, of course they didn't have the graphics capability your average PC has today, but PC use was very wide spread, especially in office work too.
 
And you'd be wrong. Early to mid 90s was the home PC boom. And no, of course they didn't have the graphics capability your average PC has today, but PC use was very wide spread, especially in office work too.
that specific TNG episode was from 1990 the start of it, yes by the end they were a lot more common also why I mentioned DS9 that came later where the handing in pads mistake is "more severe" because of the later time.

I have lived in that time and had a pc, but home use was more rare than you think in the early 90s
 
Re: the color of B’Avi’s blood: Checked the episode again, and while it just looks black / dark at first glance, it does indeed appear to be red when you brighten the image. So yeah, that‘s likely a mistake that happened during post production when they added the blood spatter effect, as it should really be green like the makeup on his face a moment later.

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Re: the color of B’Avi’s blood: Checked the episode again, and while it just looks black / dark at first glance, it does indeed appear to be red when you brighten the image. So yeah, that‘s likely a mistake that happened during post production when they added the blood spatter effect, as it should really be green like the makeup on his face a moment later.

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Like with the family tree last episode, I assume the VFX people really have no idea about any of the lore and are just doing what they think is best... and no one checked after.
 
Like with the family tree last episode, I assume the VFX people really have no idea about any of the lore and are just doing what they think is best... and no one checked after.
I dunno. I certainly see where you are coming from with this, but in all of these kind of instances — be it the “Find all seven mistakes” Sisko family tree, the oddities in the faux “Tales from the Frontier” comic book, or the color of B‘Avi‘s blood — the art department‘s or FX house‘s shortcomings didn‘t really have any negative impact on the story for me.

I was focussed on the emotionality of SAM finding the Jake Sisko recording, invested enough in the action of “Come, Let‘s Away” to really care about the details of the comic, and shocked by B‘Avi‘s unexpected heroic sacrifice to let myself be bothered by some VFX mistake.

Stuff like this has been part of Trek from day one and it never really bothered me or kept me from falling in love with the characters, the story or the lore. Remember when we used to find stuff like “James R. Kirk” charming? There‘s hundreds of these kind of errors and mistakes all throughout Trek, and it‘s usually elements that become pieces of trivia that fill interesting behind-the-scenes books and separate casual viewers from hardcore Trekkies.

I‘m not saying you are wrong, but if that‘s indeed how it shakes out and Pickford is revealed to be Braka‘s associate, then I would question the logic of her assuming a character that sticks out like a sore thumb as much as she does. Personally I rather she‘s just meant as comic relief and on a meta level a reminder that not everyone is cut out to be Academy material. That or she has some hidden talent that will be revealed in a surprising twist. I guess we‘ll see. So far I‘m just glad they didn‘t immediately forget about the character.
 
And you'd be wrong. Early to mid 90s was the home PC boom. And no, of course they didn't have the graphics capability your average PC has today, but PC use was very wide spread, especially in office work too.
...and you would be wrong. Computers were pretty expensive. I started working in Architecture in 94 and didn't have my own home computer until 99- our firm financed personal computer purchases that year. None of my friends could afford one either. That's why Cybercafes were so big in the early days of the internet. My first couple of years on Trek BBS were lunch hour on my work computer.
 
Re: the color of B’Avi’s blood: Checked the episode again, and while it just looks black / dark at first glance, it does indeed appear to be red when you brighten the image. So yeah, that‘s likely a mistake that happened during post production when they added the blood spatter effect, as it should really be green like the makeup on his face a moment later.
Maybe that's not blood, it's liquified spleen. ;)

be it the “Find all seven mistakes” Sisko family tree
Eight. :nyah:
 
...and you would be wrong. Computers were pretty expensive. I started working in Architecture in 94 and didn't have my own home computer until 99- our firm financed personal computer purchases that year. None of my friends could afford one either. That's why Cybercafes were so big in the early days of the internet. My first couple of years on Trek BBS were lunch hour on my work computer.
I was working professionally IT since 1987 and had a home computer TRS-80 then an Atari 800 and then an XT class PC in 86.

Had plenty of business supporting various offices and plenty on home users in that era.:shrug:
 
My family's first home computer was a Compaq in 1994, along with AOL dial-up internet. My school had a sponsorship license through Apple as early as 1992.
 
Re: The Deltan ritual

I like how it's equal chances she's making this BS up (like they did the guy who had a wing named after him in "Beta Test") or it really is a ritual done for her losing her virginity she didn't ask for.
 
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