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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x06 – “Come, Let’s Away”
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Makes sense. King James version was written in the same general time frame.
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To be fair a mangled barely functioning computer that lobotmised itself to stay functioning.
Oddly personable like the Athena's computer, they made a big deal about Zora but these computers have a fair bit of personality to them. The shuttle computers seen in DSC were certainly just traditional sounding so it doesn't seem like they adjusted computers to sound more organic as time went on.
I think a lobotomized computer would be even harder to access rather than easier. But who knows.
I can overlook it for sure. They wanted a fun way to get access. They could've used a code or something instead but I enjoyed the TOS style comic!
So, I don't really hold it against the episode.
Then it was JJA!
There's a touch of Galaxy Quest's Thermians and the "historical documents" in there, it's true. It didn't trouble me too much b/c it was a computer that had been dead for over a century that they were trying to revive -- which circumstance I could see affecting its standards somewhat -- but if it doesn't work for you, it's not like I can blame you.
If you're a code monkey trying to work forward in a genuine way from the disaster they describe, and this doesn't seem to you like how a computer would behave in that circumstance, that's valid. Whether it's narratively interesting is a different question, but it's valid. For much of the audience, I think the pace of events kind of carries us past that? But that doesn't make you wrong.
Further to this, I also kind of feel the person who was irritated by the Sargasso getting murked in a single volley during the final action sequence. I can see why it happens, in part because the total mismatch between the Federation and incidental opposition that many viewers were accustomed to in TNG doesn't apply in this setting, but I can't lie: I also saw how it was a contrivance b/c there wasn't time built into the script for an actual space battle in that moment.
These things don't bother me the way they seem to bother some. But I can see where people are coming from.
Nah, I'm alright with it. I've said in this thread that you can both think it's ridiculous and enjoy the episode. It probably is more fun than entering some code or something. And anything with TOS in it is OK by me!
I do agree about the Sargasso.
Eh, there's a lot of Discovery stuff that's being quietly retconned.
Starship AI have rights in the 32nd century. Zora's issue was that she hadn't joined Starfleet.
Starship AI were outlawed.
I always thought of it as an exercise in trying to overcome a ship in the field needing repairs, with a limited amount of time to solve the problem, and after each group of students did their best, everything was reset by the staff, for the next group of cadets to solve as a problem from the same starting point. Although a computer program was left in engineering, by an earlier set of students, that allowed for the restart of the drive, but the students weren't initially told about it.
I didn't think they'd reset it because I think they'd want to recover a ship from the previous century given the current scarcity but I don't think they gave an indication one way or the other.
From what I got out of the episode was that the ship was a total loss, and in a ship graveyard. It wasn't ship recovery, but crisis response simulation training. The ship's mechanical systems were destroyed, and the crew killed when its drive was first activated. They weren't there to completely repair the ship and return it to service, but to practice crisis response and support of the rescue, in the situation of a ship disaster.
The exercise they were given was only to activate life support power and turn on the ship's computer, while another group remained on the Athena in support. The cadets would be scored on how far they completed the task. When the hour was done, the next group of cadets to go in and do the same thing. The highest score in 5 years was 65%.
If the ship was recoverable, they would send in engineers to get it fixed, instead of cadets for 1 hour worth of crisis response simulation for groups of cadets training each year.
I assume they reset the ship and disable everything that's fixed.
Otherwise how is it a test that you can compare teams against?
The idea being how they operated in the field each time. But I guess I was wrong.
When time around them slows down as they connect telepathically, it's probably an hommage to INS when the dust in the cave and the hummingbird also slowed down
I am surprised so few people remembered that.
Who/when?A red blooded Vulcan
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