The solution reminded me a little bit of the Lower Decks episode that brought the Ferengi into the Federation. Rom wouldn't sign until Captain Freeman counter-swindled him, showing that the Federation would respect Ferengi customs and beliefs.
Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x04 – “Vox in Excelso”
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I admit that baffled me back in 1966, when I first watched the movie in a theater.
"But . . . but Batman knows what she looks like with her mask off! Why doesn't he recognize 'Miss Kitka' right away?"
Mind you, I was six years old at the time.
Worf's not a normal Klingon.
He's a Klingon raised by Human's who got his idea of what it is to be Klingon from the Klingon version of heroic epics.
Does that not describe how all Klingons get their idea of what it is to be Klingon though since their societal identity is passed down through stories and song and their values all trace back to tales
I'd argue the closest approximation to Worf is Sansa from Game of Thrones.
Sansa believes knights are brave, heroic, and chivalrous.
Most other citizens of Westeros (from proximity if nothing else) know they're professional killers and snobs.
Worf was much more strict than Klingons raised on Kronos. He took everything more by the book than other klingons. He took the best of both worlds and it showed.
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Also, that ignores that all of us experience society two ways:
1. Our stories about society
2. Actually living it
The difference between cops on CSI versus getting a ticket.
thanks for the suggestion! Which settings? Like turning optimization things off? The sets on the show look great! It's mostly the ships and the dots that don't always look great.
Thing is most other series look great though. But I don't always pay attention to the settings admittedly. I agree that the streaming era generally looks spectacular!
Just don't tell me what my own experiences are. Thanks.
Agreed, it was very TNG with all the shortcomings thereof.
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Yeah, the more I think about this one, the less I like it. It really was Berman-Trek by numbers, right down to the rather awkward botched messaging.
I think why it doesn't sit right is that SFA has been building its own identity for the first three episodes. Episode 4 here was an attempt to branch out and tell a recognisable regular Star Trek story... but if the show can do that, what separates it from Strange New Worlds, other than aesthetics? SNW is meant to be the show offering the TOS/TNG hybrid experience, and even if you feel they've botched that, that's their thing.
I hope SFA goes back to carving out its own niche. This episode isn't a grave misstep or anything and it did still have elements that could only really work in this show, but the sudden tonal shift does make me worry it's going to eventually do what a lot of these recent shows have done, and slowly turn into muddled Star Trek soup. Still very early days though, of course.
I think why it doesn't sit right is that SFA has been building its own identity for the first three episodes. Episode 4 here was an attempt to branch out and tell a recognisable regular Star Trek story... but if the show can do that, what separates it from Strange New Worlds, other than aesthetics? SNW is meant to be the show offering the TOS/TNG hybrid experience, and even if you feel they've botched that, that's their thing.
I hope SFA goes back to carving out its own niche. This episode isn't a grave misstep or anything and it did still have elements that could only really work in this show, but the sudden tonal shift does make me worry it's going to eventually do what a lot of these recent shows have done, and slowly turn into muddled Star Trek soup. Still very early days though, of course.
So does that mean the future Klingons are just like Worf when Jay-Den's parents would rather let their son die than simply help him with a simple tool from the Federation?
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I don't think it's fair to compare those two situations, Thar's wound and Worf's paralysis. Very, very different situations.
Watching the scene again, it seems all they needed was a dermal regenerator. Which I assume they used every time they cut their hands to prove that they weren't Changelings during the Dominion War, so it's not like some radical technology either. lol
I would argue that Jay-Den's parents are better then Worf, not that that is saying much. Jay-Den's father realized that is son was not meant to be a Klingon and let him go off to Starfleet, whereas Worf tried to turn Alexander into a Klingon, which harmed him.
Oh I totally agree on that front, Worf was a terrible father. But it took the literal death of one son in order for Jay-Den's father to prevent the spiritual death of another, so I'm not sure if that's meant to be a positive form of growth.
I thought Thar was stabbed, which would need something more than just a dermal regenerator. Must have had internal injuries.
To be fair, Worf did stop trying to turn Alexander into a warrior at the end of TNG's run (in "Firstborn"). It was Alexander who ended up signing up for the Klingon Defense Force on his own during the Dominion War.
Stabbed with a poisoned blade, IIRC.
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