Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x01 – “Kids These Days”
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Even then. I don't think Wesley really cared if anyone knew cause he was living on higher planes of existence that we mere mortals could never understand.
After a rewatch I think I will firmly give the first episode a like and not a love.
I rated a 7 but I'll give it a more accurate 7.5.
The flashback at the start is stardate 853724 which is 15 years previous makong the present stardate 868 something. Discovery season 5 in 3191 was 866 so we're two years after Discovery ended in autumn 3193.
Didn't he save the 1012 humans on the United Starship Enterprise Dee on multiple occasions? Surely just doing that once should earn you something.
Even if Spock is on there and he saved Earth and the whole galaxy a few times.
Oh please. Starfleet using lethal measures to end a threat is hardly new given General Order 24 is a thing.
Janeway had no issue destroying Kazon raiders and remember that time she decided it was time to take out the garbage and destroy a malon freighter instead of just leaving them stranded with a two year journey home? Or what about the time she helped the Borg kill a species they started a war with?
Sisko is an accessory to murder for crying out loud and used biogenic weapons against the maquis.
I could be wrong, but I think Enterprise was the only show that routinely just disabled weapons/engines and left ships drifting in the dead of space rather than blowing them up.
Regardless, I think what happened with the pirate ship here was a failure of communication across the scripting and the VFX team. I wouldn't be surprised if the original just specified the bridge ordered them to fire on the ship, and then the VFX team decided to make it as big/cool of an explosion as possible.
Though TBH we don't actually see the entire ship vaporize. I'm guessing when Braka comes up again later in the season he will have some of the same henchmen, not a new team. Possibly his ship wasn't even destroyed.
Regardless, I think what happened with the pirate ship here was a failure of communication across the scripting and the VFX team. I wouldn't be surprised if the original just specified the bridge ordered them to fire on the ship, and then the VFX team decided to make it as big/cool of an explosion as possible.
Though TBH we don't actually see the entire ship vaporize. I'm guessing when Braka comes up again later in the season he will have some of the same henchmen, not a new team. Possibly his ship wasn't even destroyed.
Or in Insurrection, the Enterprise beams Picard off the exploding Son'a Collector but leaves Ru'afo (who was standing quite literally right in front of him) behind to die in the explosion.
Like it or not, this sort of thing is cool and normal in Star Trek and always has been.
Peter Preston is a lovely callback....
but really??
but really??
I just rewatched the sequence and that doesn't really track with how it’s portrayed. Ake specifically orders: “Blow that ship to hell.” Which Ya promptly does (“With pleasure, Captain”). You are right that we don’t see it fully explode, but the intention of the script seems to be to have Ake order complete destruction instead of just disabling their weapons.
But still I don't really have a problem with them destroying the pirate ship. With the programmable matter they had brought the Athena under their control. The cadets managed to disable the matter, making it possible for Ake to do something. There was no reason to assume the pirates wouldn’t just shoot another round of programmable matter at them, immobilizing the ship once again. So Ake had to act fast and ordered the destruction of the hostile ship. Seems like a pretty clear cut case of self defense to me.
Braka and his pirates laid a trap, fired on the Athena (which was essentially a moving school with mostly kids), and was trying to steal their warp core.
Are we supposed to be okay with Ake destroying the pirate ship? Yes, I'm confident that we should be okay with that.
The Federation: bloodthirsty? I've heard the Federation be called a lot of things over the years... arrogant, judgmental, a bit subversive, etc. (And I'd actually agree with much of those things.) But bloodthirsty?
That's a new one for me, and certainly not a word that remotely fits them. Not in this space/time continuum.
Alright, my bad. Though saying "blow that ship to hell" is still a pretty vague statement, more akin to firing with a full spread than asking it to be vaporized.
That said, I still think it's likely the ship wasn't actually destroyed. This would solve the issue of where Braka went in the escape pod. He was escaping back to his ship. Or at least, the remaining bits of it, since like most of the 32nd century ships, it appears to be multiple detached parts.
I guess we'll find out later in the season.
Janeway also used a biological weapon (Icheb) against the Borg.
Re: Why didn’t immediately recapture Braka in that escape pod? That’s assuming Caleb was able to communicate the fact that he used one quickly enough to the bridge. And even though we don't see it warp away, I’m going out on a limb and assume escape pods in the 32nd century are warp-capable, so that he was long gone when Ake on the bridge was made aware of what had happened.
That was his parents.
She used him in "Endgame".
That and Braka is supposed to last all season.
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