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It could happen through illegal means. It could happen through natural phenomena like a temporal disruption of some sort. An artifact like the Orb of Time, the Guardian or the portal encountered by the crews of the Enterprise and the Cerritos. My point was that the legality of the matter wasn't actually the point.
 
Not with time travel being illegal in the 32nd century.

Of course, that didn't stop the DISCO writers from doing it anyway in season 5's "Face the Strange". They couldn't help themselves but add in time travel there, so I expect them to not be able to help themselves in ACADEMY at least once, either.

And if you note in my post (I quoted it above for you, in case you missed it since it was a couple pages ago) I already said I expect ACADEMY to be like DISCO and do it anyway.
 
SAM, emissary of the photonics, is 4 months old, and playing SAM feels like spiderman.
The captain, to distinguish herself from Kirk, Picard, Janeway, etc. walks around barefoot, and often curls up in her chair like a cat.
The EMH has a new ageing subroutine, and Picardo sees him as the Yoda of Trek.
The bad guy has a tic tac toe game in his haircut, Athena's wings unfurl at warp, and there are references to exocomps and the EMH's opera interest.
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I'd rather watch how we get to the "paradise" of the late 24th century than watch said utopia every single week.

I think people know that that realistically humans will never have a paradise. Any attempt explain how it happens will not make sense to people. That is assuming it doesn't piss them off in other ways. I mean the idea that humans got paradise because they finally embrace socialism is for sure going to bother people. I think it's easier to leave the "how" to the imagination and just go straight to showcasing the benefits of it.

I do think though the Roddenberry Vision is also something that mostly only works for TNG. The feelings that TNG create are hard to duplicate so almost all future Trek shows will always feel lacking in some way when it comes to that kind of optimism. TNG is basically the Weird Al of Trek shows. You will never see another Trek show again that feels the hopelessly optimistic and unique.
 
I never felt optimism from TNG, with how much conflict they had or alluded to. The preaching also was not very welcoming.

There's a reason TOS appealed to me. It allowed a measure of flaws. Later TNG got a little bit better but the impression was not lost.

Yes, I prefer the journey towards the utopia, and being encouraged that humans can grow towards it rather than told we're to lucky to have it.
 
Picard basically telling an entire planet of proto-Vulcan humanoids they're superstitious rubes and that he's not going to participate in their stupid worldview was probably his lowpoint in TNG from a "warm character you want to like and root for" perspective. Yes, the Mintakans were Bronze Age primitives but if real world explorers pulled the shit Picard did in that episode they'd be rightfully excoriated as colonialist pricks who can't resist playing the "I'm more evolved than you" card. I like that episode, but Picard does not come off looking good for most of it.
 
Because Kurtzman wanted to set it in the Discovery timeline.

That is literally it.

Though yes, it taking place more or less directly after Picard would have made a lot more sense since that's the time period the majority care about and it's on the tail end of multiple disasters that massively depleted Starfleet's officer ranks.
It isn’t. Kurtzman specifically talks about it in the interview, which I can tell you didn’t bother reading before complaining.
 
Actually, time travel was made illegal by that time, after the Temporal Wars and the Temporal Accords were made. Discovery's very appearance in that century (at the early part of season 3) was even a plot point.
No, they claimed it was.

But you don't get to claim a thing is illegal while secretly using it yourself.
 
Picard basically telling an entire planet of proto-Vulcan humanoids they're superstitious rubes and that he's not going to participate in their stupid worldview was probably his lowpoint in TNG from a "warm character you want to like and root for" perspective. Yes, the Mintakans were Bronze Age primitives but if real world explorers pulled the shit Picard did in that episode they'd be rightfully excoriated as colonialist pricks who can't resist playing the "I'm more evolved than you" card. I like that episode, but Picard does not come off looking good for most of it.
I actually think Picard was 100% correct in "Who Watches The Watchers".

If Picard played the part of a god to them, that's just a disastrous situation of all kinds. Of course he was trying to stop them from looking to him as a god. Playing god has always ended up a disaster.

I'm not sure what you mean by him playing the 'more evolved card'. If you are talking about him comparing huts and bows, he was just illustrating that Picard and his crew simply have knowledge the Mintakans lacked, just as current Mintakans have knowledge their ancestors lacked. It was a way of showing they are stilk similar and that he is no better than they are. I don't see that as making them feel less evolved... I actually think the opposite. Seems to me it was more like, "You'll get there one day, too."

Frankly, it was Crusher who screwed everything up there by bringing the Mintakan aboard.


No, they claimed it was.

But you don't get to claim a thing is illegal while secretly using it yourself.
It was Admiral Vance who let them know about the illegality of time travel, and he was not using time travel.
 
So, anyway, two weeks exactly as of today.
Time to start my Starfleet Academy rereads:
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