Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread

[Turtletrekker]

Just because it's illegal doesn't stop it from happening. Just ask Carl. He likes being asked questions.

 

[Frostscape One]

Just because it's illegal doesn't stop it from happening. Just ask Carl. He likes being asked questions.

My point about it being illegal in that time was to address someone proposing that they may do 'a reverse DISCO' and send some of them back to early 25th century, after PICARD.

 

[Turtletrekker]

It could happen through illegal means. It could happen through natural phenomena like a temporal disruption of some sort. An artifact like the Orb of Time, the Guardian or the portal encountered by the crews of the Enterprise and the Cerritos. My point was that the legality of the matter wasn't actually the point.

 

[Frostscape One]

Not with time travel being illegal in the 32nd century.

Of course, that didn't stop the DISCO writers from doing it anyway in season 5's "Face the Strange". They couldn't help themselves but add in time travel there, so I expect them to not be able to help themselves in ACADEMY at least once, either.

And if you note in my post (I quoted it above for you, in case you missed it since it was a couple pages ago) I already said I expect ACADEMY to be like DISCO and do it anyway.

 

[NCC-73515]

SAM, emissary of the photonics, is 4 months old, and playing SAM feels like spiderman.
The captain, to distinguish herself from Kirk, Picard, Janeway, etc. walks around barefoot, and often curls up in her chair like a cat.
The EMH has a new ageing subroutine, and Picardo sees him as the Yoda of Trek.
The bad guy has a tic tac toe game in his haircut, Athena's wings unfurl at warp, and there are references to exocomps and the EMH's opera interest.
(SFX)

 

[Jason X-Mas]

I'd rather watch how we get to the "paradise" of the late 24th century than watch said utopia every single week.

I think people know that that realistically humans will never have a paradise. Any attempt explain how it happens will not make sense to people. That is assuming it doesn't piss them off in other ways. I mean the idea that humans got paradise because they finally embrace socialism is for sure going to bother people. I think it's easier to leave the "how" to the imagination and just go straight to showcasing the benefits of it.

I do think though the Roddenberry Vision is also something that mostly only works for TNG. The feelings that TNG create are hard to duplicate so almost all future Trek shows will always feel lacking in some way when it comes to that kind of optimism. TNG is basically the Weird Al of Trek shows. You will never see another Trek show again that feels the hopelessly optimistic and unique.

 

[Christmas Canon Spock]

I never felt optimism from TNG, with how much conflict they had or alluded to. The preaching also was not very welcoming.

There's a reason TOS appealed to me. It allowed a measure of flaws. Later TNG got a little bit better but the impression was not lost.

Yes, I prefer the journey towards the utopia, and being encouraged that humans can grow towards it rather than told we're to lucky to have it.