I appreciate Stoicism as a philosophy.
Stoic as in stiff upper lip non feeling and denial of emotions? Not helpful.
Stoic as in stiff upper lip non feeling and denial of emotions? Not helpful.
Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread
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Do not recommned.
Was this one of the effects?
If you wanna blow up an enemy's homeworld a black hole is a great thing to fall into. Otherwise: meh.
KIRK: V-G-E-R ...V-O-Y-A-G-E-R ...Voyager! ...Voyager VI?
DECKER: NASA. National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Jim, this was launched more than three hundred years ago.
KIRK: Voyager series, designed to collect data and transmit it back to Earth.
DECKER: Voyager VI ...disappeared into what they used to call a black hole.
KIRK: It must have emerged sometime on the far side of the Galaxy and fell into the machine's planet's gravitational field.
You blow up one star and suddenly everyone expects you to walk on water!
Tangential science side note: As a TMP-lover I hate to admit that anything from the film is outdated, but isn’t the thinking now that a black hole’s central singularity births a new, inaccessible “daughter” universe, rather than leading elsewhere within the same one? (I’m not even thinking about spaghettification, here.)
If there was a black hole a decade away from Earth at rocket speed, it would still be inside the solar system.
Unless...
ROMULANS!!
I only fear black hole suns.
Alex Kurtzman Explains Why Starfleet Academy Isn’t Set Post-‘Picard,’ Hints More Star Trek TV Is In Development
"Star Trek has always been a mirror that reflects the moment in which each series is made," says Kurtzman.
trekmovie.com
Not in the immediate aftermath (25th century).
It's about 790 years later.
Because Kurtzman wanted to set it in the Discovery timeline.
That is literally it.
Though yes, it taking place more or less directly after Picard would have made a lot more sense since that's the time period the majority care about and it's on the tail end of multiple disasters that massively depleted Starfleet's officer ranks.
I suppose the show could pull a reverse DSC and send some of the students back to the 25th century (or at least for an episode)
The thing is, "not post Picard" would mean not after Picard at all. It's a misleading headline. If they meant "not immediately after Picard" they could have said so.
The reason for the setting is obvious. They want to get away from the Roddenberry Utopia of the old shows and use the Burn as a excuse to make the Trek universe a metaphor for the present day. They feel like that the only way to get kids into Star Trek is basically stop being Star Trek and make the setting feel like 2025 but with aliens and magical space tech.
I understand the logic of what they are doing but I don't think it will work. Old fans will loose interests because it doesn't feel like traditional Trek and young people don't watch tv unless something in a show becomes trendy.
Granted Trek has been trying to find ways around the Roddenberry Utopia for awhile. DS9 was on alien space station and first show to have non-Starfleet characters. Voyager was sent to a distant galaxy and created the Maquis for conflict. Enterprise was a prequel before in theory the utopia existed. One thing all these shows had in common though is they were made by RIck Berman and he always felt a need for these shows to never go to far from the Roddenberry Vision stuff. which by then was him just making assumptions of what Roddenberry would have wanted done, since Gene had been dead since season 5 of TNG.
Academy much like Section 31 actually feels like modern Trek's first real attempts to completely break away from the Roddenberry Vision stuff and become something different. So for this show to work it basically has to work as being a good regular show because it can't use nostalgia and familiar Trek feelings to carry some of the weight. The EMH being maybe the one bone tossed to the old fans and hoping it will be enough. It doesn't have the fan service you get with Picard season 3 or SNW and it's use of many TOS characters or the love letter to Trek that Lower Decks was or even Admiral Janeway in Prodigy.
I understand the logic of what they are doing but I don't think it will work. Old fans will loose interests because it doesn't feel like traditional Trek and young people don't watch tv unless something in a show becomes trendy.
Granted Trek has been trying to find ways around the Roddenberry Utopia for awhile. DS9 was on alien space station and first show to have non-Starfleet characters. Voyager was sent to a distant galaxy and created the Maquis for conflict. Enterprise was a prequel before in theory the utopia existed. One thing all these shows had in common though is they were made by RIck Berman and he always felt a need for these shows to never go to far from the Roddenberry Vision stuff. which by then was him just making assumptions of what Roddenberry would have wanted done, since Gene had been dead since season 5 of TNG.
Academy much like Section 31 actually feels like modern Trek's first real attempts to completely break away from the Roddenberry Vision stuff and become something different. So for this show to work it basically has to work as being a good regular show because it can't use nostalgia and familiar Trek feelings to carry some of the weight. The EMH being maybe the one bone tossed to the old fans and hoping it will be enough. It doesn't have the fan service you get with Picard season 3 or SNW and it's use of many TOS characters or the love letter to Trek that Lower Decks was or even Admiral Janeway in Prodigy.
Not with time travel being illegal in the 32nd century.
Of course, that didn't stop the DISCO writers from doing it anyway in season 5's "Face the Strange". They couldn't help themselves but add in time travel there, so I expect them to not be able to help themselves in ACADEMY at least once, either.
Needs the plot always supersede everything else. Always has, always will.
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