Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley developing Star Trek reboot for Paramount

[tomalak301]

Which one is that?

The Voyage Home was considered a comedy.

 

[UssGlenn]

it's a Fish Out of Water comedy, appropriately enough.

 

[Jayson1]

I think The Voyage Home could be best described as a adventure comedy. The movie has comedy in it but also has other things such as social commentary,a ticking clock and character development and closure from what was done in the previous two films.

 

[camdudetenger2018]

...and?

and its just fresh and brand new like the origins of star trek in a new universe

 

[Mudd]

and its just fresh and brand new like the origins of star trek in a new universe

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[eschaton]

My feeling is they will make a fun and competent Star Trek movie that has plenty of adventure and comedy but don't expect it to really expect to be particular deep. It's basically just going to be like a MCU movie but hopefully one of the good ones. As for the changes they plan on doing. The good thing is I expect completely new characters so it's not going to be another re-imagining of already established characters. I am also going to make a prediction it is set many years after the TNG era and they will more or less pretend like Discovery's version of the future never happened. This allows them change things up and do their own thing and not beholden to much canon.

For some reason, I'm expecting some sort of "fish out of water" story. Like where a character from our present is plopped into the Trekverse, and makes light commentary on its many absurdities.

While fish out of water isn't the only comedy structure, it works well for more family-friendly comedy. Indeed, TVH basically had this structure, as was noted.

The good thing about doing this is they can do it without having a single legacy Trek character appear, since it will just be lightly taking the piss out of Star Trek (like a within-canon Galaxy Quest) and not rely on any of the particulars we know already.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

So "Self-Insert Fanfic:The Movie"?

 

[Jayson1]

For some reason, I'm expecting some sort of "fish out of water" story. Like where a character from our present is plopped into the Trekverse, and makes light commentary on its many absurdities.

While fish out of water isn't the only comedy structure, it works well for more family-friendly comedy. Indeed, TVH basically had this structure, as was noted.

The good thing about doing this is they can do it without having a single legacy Trek character appear, since it will just be lightly taking the piss out of Star Trek (like a within-canon Galaxy Quest) and not rely on any of the particulars we know already.

I can see that or at least a single character who sort of represents the modern day viewer. Someone who is thrust into the world of Star Trek much like we would be if we were somehow transported to the future but have never seen any of the old Trek shows and movies. I'm not just thinking of Galaxy Quest but also the John Meyers character in the first Hellboy movie. Hellboy was the star of the movie but he was the audience POV character.

 

[Turtletrekker]

But it's something done in other franchises a lot these days. It's just never

I don't like it at all when other franchises do it, either. See my recent comments in the thread for the new Mummy movie.

 

[Turtletrekker]

If LD--a recent ST series--disappeared from consciousness so quickly after its cancellation, that's not the kind of production that would attract audiences--or make a profit.



Roddenberry did that with TAS; during the pre-release promotional appearances and run of the series, Roddenberry (and Fontana) actively referred to TAS as an official continuation of TOS, but as we all know, a few years later, Roddenberry would attempt to de-canon-ize TAS, yet some TAS elements were--as you describe the practice--selectively picked to find their way into post-TAS Treks. Let us not forget how he tried (and thankfully failed) to sell the notion that TMP was how TOS really looked, and that many of its episodes were apocryphal. If Jayson's idea is adopted by the new owners and writers, it would be a "been there, done that" situation for the franchise.

This policy was due to legal and ownership issues with Filmation which evaporated as soon as Filmation did and nothing else. As for the rest, as you say, he "thankfully failed". Because it was a bad idea. Just like disregarding The Burn.

Rodenberry was full of bad ideas that "thankfully failed". Three-breasted Betazoids. "Three-legged" Ferengi. Spock kills JFK. Roddenberry actually thought that subbmitting the script for The Omega Glory for Emmy consideration was a good idea. Thankfully, the Razzies didn't exist then.

 

[Dukhat]

"Three-legged" Ferengi.

I thought his idea for the Ferengi was that they would have bulbous testicles, not three legs? Unless you're being sarcastic and you meant a 'third leg.'

 

[Turtletrekker]

I thought his idea for the Ferengi was that they would have bulbous testicles, not three legs? Unless you're being sarcastic and you meant a 'third leg.'

And one bad idea is better than the other bad idea? Even if I misremembered the specifics, it's still a bad idea.

 

[Dukhat]

And one bad idea is better than the other bad idea? Even if I misremembered the specifics, it's still a bad idea.

Er, I don't recall making a value judgment about either thing.