Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x09 - "Terrarium"

[fireproof78]

They can do whatever they want to tell a story is the logic of some fans today.

Arguably, backswept pylons is just an illogical visual change for the sake of change.

If doing such a character change to Sybok tells a greater story to speak to real world topics, then it's a worthy change (if successful). What does backswept pylons do?

Aesthetically pleasing to the artist.


These are not anywhere close to the same idea. This is apples and asteroids level comparison.

 

[Trekker4747]

It's a thin line for me. Make the Enterprise that much larger and putting a holodeck on it changes a lot in how I've envisioned the universe for the last 30 years of my life. How I've written stories around and about. It makes things confusing.

Make that change to Sybok? Changes one movie I don't own or have access to in anyway without having to buy it. (Or find an old VHS tape I do have.) It's no big deal.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It's a thin line for me. Make the Enterprise that much larger and putting a holodeck on it changes a lot in how I've envisioned the universe for the last 30 years of my life. How I've written stories around and about. It makes things confusing.

Sounds like a "but my headcanon/fanfic" problem.

 

[Donald G]

Why in the world are you equating Sybok being "religious" with him hating LGBTQ people? Yeah there are folks who hate LGBTQ people on "religious" grounds, but nothing that we've learned about Sybok puts him in that group.

And there are religious people who love LGBTQ people on religious grounds. Open, accepting, and affirming congregations are a thing and have been since the nineties. They're a minority of churches, and the loud hateful churches get all the publicity, but they do exist.

Sybok's cult was a "liberate yourself from emotional repression" radical self-acceptance/self-help movement . . . a kind of New Age cult. What about that screams Sybok's a Scott Lively "Kill the Gays" style of religious extremist?

 

[fireproof78]

It's a thin line for me. Make the Enterprise that much larger and putting a holodeck on it changes a lot in how I've envisioned the universe for the last 30 years of my life. How I've written stories around and about. It makes things confusing.

Make that change to Sybok? Changes one movie I don't own or have access to in anyway without having to buy it. (Or find an old VHS tape I do have.) It's no big deal.

Mileage clearly varies.

The Enterprise has always had a holodeck to me (Practical Joker in TAS). The ship size was a complete unknown so I didn't care, and the shape of the pylons is a nonstarter. Make 'em straight of it's that big an issue.

But, Sybok? You take him from searching for knowledge and thinking he can help people by rejecting logic and recognizing his error in the end to someone cruel and uncaring towards others.

Bridge too far.

 

[Trekker4747]

I see where you are coming from.

 

[thribs]

Anyone know what the final episode will be about? Can’t seem to find anything about it

 

[NCC-73515]

Ortegas herself probably would've shot any Gorn on sight as well.

 

[FredH]

And there are religious people who love LGBTQ people on religious grounds. Open, accepting, and affirming congregations are a thing and have been since the nineties. They're a minority of churches, and the loud hateful churches get all the publicity, but they do exist.

Sybok's cult was a "liberate yourself from emotional repression" radical self-acceptance/self-help movement . . . a kind of New Age cult. What about that screams Sybok's a Scott Lively "Kill the Gays" style of religious extremist?

Basically: “Religious, even Super-Religious”, doesn’t equal “the specific prejudices of this specific stream of a different religion of another species on another planet”…

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

THOSE are what you're hung up about? You do know that the speed of the Enterprise was outlined in TOS episodes like 'That Which Survives' which states the 1701 can do 1,000 light years in 12 hours.

That was a Factual Math Error according the IMDB page on the ep "That Which Survives"

In the ep, Spock states that the USS Enterprise can go at a Safe Top Speed of Warp 8 (Most likely Cruising Speed where the Engines won't have issues)

Going over that speed for prolonged periods risks incuring Severe Engine Damage.

Here's a Warp Speed Calculator if you want to do the math yourself.

If they were traveling at Warp 8, it would take the USS Enterprise 706.74 days to get back to the planet.

The only reason they were thrown 990.7 light years away was because of the Kalandan's Molecular Transporter being able to transport a StarShip out that far.

It's one of the most amazing Alien Transporter Tech, even if it required a "Moon-sized" Facility to pull off the Amazing Feat.

Transporting / Teleporting an Entire StarShip 990.7 Light Years or Longer has HUGE implications for spreading your forces and logistics.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Anyone know what the final episode will be about? Can’t seem to find anything about it

I'm sure we'll find out at the same pace we found out about the other episodes.

 

[Commander Troi]

Yes, we've seen this setup a million times, but it still works as a way to spotlight a character, and IMO this episode did that well. Melissa hit it out of the park, and I really loved Celia's performance as well, with her dogged determination to save her friend. I felt sad when the Gorn pilot died, but it was also pretty heavily telegraphed, so I wasn't surprised. The Metrons being behind the whole thing (I'm with @DaveyNY on this) didn't bother me, and actually recontextualized Arena for me. Damn godlike aliens mucking about with people...

 

[thribs]

I'm sure we'll find out at the same pace we found out about the other episodes.

I just thought they might promote the finale a bit more.

 

[Turtletrekker]

It's been a point of conversation ever since the episode titles were revealed and the trailers started being released that there was no information available about the finale.

 

[thribs]

Probably going to introduce another TOS character. Bones I'm guessing.
Season 1 - Kirk
Season 2 - Scotty

 

[fireproof78]

I just thought they might promote the finale a bit more.

Nope.

Those who are watching probably will keep on watching. Those who dropped off in the season probably won't be persuaded by marketing.

Screenshots probably be released Tuesday (no Generations joke intended).

 

[Tuskin38]

Anyone know what the final episode will be about? Can’t seem to find anything about it

There's scenes in the trailers we haven't seen yet.

Spoiler

Pike and Batel standing on a planet with the same architecture as the place in Episode 5, and the Farragut and Enterprise firing on a planet, possibly at the gateway Batel and Pike are looking at

I just thought they might promote the finale a bit more.

They've never promoted a season finale in SNW any more than any other episode.

 

[FredH]

The Metrons being behind the whole thing (I'm with @DaveyNY on this) didn't bother me, and actually recontextualized Arena for me. Damn godlike aliens mucking about with people...

Sure. Always worth remembering: as stories from “The Paradise Syndrome” to “Who Watches the Watchers” to the openings of both Star Trek Into Darkness and “The Vulcan Hello” demonstrate, often enough our guys are the comparatively godlike aliens mucking with people…

 

[JoseNoodles]

Im shocked with all the talk of Enemy Mine that more people are not mentioning the OG crashed pilot buddies.

This was actually the first thing BSG related that I ever saw.

 

[PatB1974]

I always wanted a spinoff starring the Paternoster Gang.

Me too! I miss Strax especially.