Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x05 - "Through the Lens of Time"

[Greg Cox]

My takeaway was that it triggered an instinctual reaction in N'Jal like it did with Batel. I thought that the intention was that the M'Kroon had a genetic predisposition to run away from the Vezda-Pah, like the Gorn had the instinct to attack.

I think it was more that he recognized what the living statue was, and it was something VERY scary in the myths and legends of his people.

Kinda like:

"Hmm. An ancient structure built by my ancestors. How very interesting and excitng." Explores a little further, spots a certain glowing idol. "Holy crap, this is the Unholy Temple of Cthulhu! Get me the hell out of here!"

There's ancient ruins of uncertain purpose -- and there's suddenly realizing that this ruin is the Hellmouth.

 

[Tuskin38]

Spock quotes Alice in Wonderland, which calls back to Discovery and the Animated Series.

 

[Turtletrekker]

The holodeck is the one that breaks canon the least. We know they had holodecks/recreation rooms in the 23rd century thanks to TAS.

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[indranee]

My takeaway was that it triggered an instinctual reaction in N'Jal like it did with Batel. I thought that the intention was that the M'Kroon had a genetic predisposition to run away from the Vezda-Pah, like the Gorn had the instinct to attack.

Maybe he was shown that image in a holo-movie by his parents when he was all of 10

 

[Macgyver]

The episode creates some interesting speculation for me.

Are these transdimensional aliens going to be a new threat to Enterprise, or is this just a one off adventure?

Both the Gorn and Lanthanites having a primal reaction to the entities, and the computer screen at the end, I think these guys will come back somehow.

And if they have been in prison for millenia.. what have they done to deserve it? I could see them possessing various crews and being vaguely Borg/Control-esque.

 

[Greg Cox]

Oh, it dawns me that nobody has mentioned my favorite line in this episode, which I am so jealous of and that I'm surprised it took so long for Trek to go there:

"Enterprise, we're going to need a bigger landing party."

 

[Charles Phipps]

And if they have been in prison for millenia.. what have they done to deserve it? I could see them possessing various crews and being vaguely Borg/Control-esque.

It seems that they possessed members of the race that imprisoned them and raised hell.

 

[Fateor]

Thing is, everyone knew Tasha Yar was leaving. Which is another thing to consider, when main characters are killed off, it's public knowledge well before the episode airs that the actor is leaving.

Everyone absolutely did not, that happened in 1988, the only people who knew were people who followed some very specific entertainment magazines.

 

[FredH]

Nowadays, we tend to try to control things more, but any gamer will know that you can't really shelter a ten-year old completely from fearsome things.

Well, parents may try to protect their kids, but then they send them to school where they probably encounter real monsters in the hallways every day…

 

[Turtletrekker]

Everyone absolutely did not, that happened in 1988, the only people who knew were people who followed some very specific entertainment magazines.

You mean like TV Guide? I absolutely knew well in advance that Denise Crosby was leaving The Next Generation, that Terry Farrell was leaving Deep Space Nine and that Jennifer Lien was leaving Voyager before the episodes aired.

 

[FredH]

You mean like TV Guide? I absolutely knew well in advance that Denise Crosby was leaving The Next Generation, that Terry Farrell was leaving Deep Space Nine and that Jennifer Lien was leaving Voyager before the episodes aired.

I knew all of these, but I was a still-fairly-young Trek fan reading Usenet groups, so I don’t think that counts.

 

[Fateor]

You mean like TV Guide? I absolutely knew well in advance that Denise Crosby was leaving The Next Generation, that Terry Farrell was leaving Deep Space Nine and that Jennifer Lien was leaving Voyager before the episodes aired.

Nope, because as far as I know it wasn't in there.

And those other examples you gave? Those were 9+ years later when both Star Trek and the Internet were much bigger things.

I knew all of these, but I was a still-fairly-young Trek fan reading Usenet groups, so I don’t think that counts.

Yup, that and people who read certain sci-fi mags were pretty much it for knowing about Tasha before it happened.

To most everyone else it came as a complete surprise.

 

[fireproof78]

You mean like TV Guide? I absolutely knew well in advance that Denise Crosby was leaving The Next Generation, that Terry Farrell was leaving Deep Space Nine and that Jennifer Lien was leaving Voyager before the episodes aired.

Read TV guide every week, especially Star Trek.

 

[Lucky]

10/10. I love episodes that delve into the horror and creepiness of space exploration, and this embodies all those things. This is an instant classic for me, and I'm curious to see if any threads from this episode are followed up on later in the season (I'll be disappointed if they aren't). This is definitely my favorite episode of the season so far.

 

[Jedi Marso]

Good episode.

These could be an interesting recurring enemy, like the Shedai in the Vanguard novels, but there isn't enough of this show left to make a real interesting run of it, especially if they want to keep up with the frivolous episodes like last week.

I liked seeing Batel get all reptilian there. Pike better sleep with one eye open.

 

[DaveyNY]

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Never noticed before that the size of that REC ROOM certainly indicated that the TOS Enterprise was A LOT bigger than we were led to believe for the first few decades.
It's almost as size defying as the Turbolifts on the Discovery.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Something Ronald Moore said in a podcast, not specifically about Star Trek, is that after all the studios tried to become Netflix, they realize there can only be one Netflix. They are all stuck, having destroyed their old successful business model.

I'm not sure they want to go to the 26-episode season. There are probably enough people around who think it was too much of a grind. However, there is a lot of chatter about the problemata of the 10-episode season, some of it which came out during the writers' and actors' strikes: too many shows, but not enough work.

This is why I think there needs to be a reset on the (22-26)-ep Season Formula.

It's too much of a grind, & you don't get enough time to film things given how many eps you need to produce.

The 10-ish ep seasons don't seem to work either since there isn't enough work for the staff.

It's almost like the Goldilocks & 3-bears situation...

 

[DaveyNY]

Nope, because as far as I know it wasn't in there.

And those other examples you gave? Those were 9+ years later when both Star Trek and the Internet were much bigger things.



Yup, that and people who read certain sci-fi mags were pretty much it for knowing about Tasha before it happened.

To most everyone else it came as a complete surprise.

STARLOG magazine was where I learned about Tasha and most things Trek before the Internet.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

That's the point. Lot of those experiments shouldn't have been anywhere near the warp core.

That would've been way too logical.

Some fans might complain about changing the formula by doing things logically & competently.

It would be "too boring" if StarFleet was "too competent".

 

[NCC-73515]

What affects which kid how much depends on one thing alone: each individual kid.
Person x not being traumatized by film y at age z is also only an indicator for that one individual and no others.