"Lee Woods" costume had a certain DW vibe with its puffy epaulettes. (Not sure what the word is for that). Who used it a lot in the eighties.
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x04 - "A Space Adventure Hour"
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I haven't seen the episode yet, but what I've seen of the USS Adventure clip seems a bit confusing. The ship looks like a low-poly CGI model from the '80's, and the sets and costumes look like something out of a '30's Flash Gordon serial. None of it actually resembles TOS all that much.
Yes that's entirely intentional.
also it would need a drydock to refit it with the spinning energy release things.
A lot of assumptions there.
Spock's New Women? The acronym fits
Singh is not a woman's last name, though. Kaur is more like it. But hey it's ignorant Trek writers so we let them do it.
Trek finally has its own Cannonball Run blooper reel.
They're doing season 7, out-of-ideas, fuck-it-lets-goof-around episodes in season 3. Not a good episode. Not a good sign when there are two and a half seasons to go.
And the TOS bit at the very start was the drizzling shits. It was laughing at TOS, not laughing with TOS. Not how you do it.
I do love the idea of Spock banging his way through the entire female senior staff on the Enterprise
And the TOS bit at the very start was the drizzling shits. It was laughing at TOS, not laughing with TOS. Not how you do it.
I do love the idea of Spock banging his way through the entire female senior staff on the Enterprise
This is the ethos of the show, I suppose. Like most modern Trek, it's a bit cargo cult-y - it wears the aesthetics of Star Trek and fills the script with obscure callbacks, but the idea of actually writing an original, unironic Star Trek plot is something they tend to shrink away from unless it has some metafictional or self-referential layer atop it, and everything has to be filled with knowing winks to the audience.
I think what makes it sting is a bit is that the first season was really promising, or at least the first seven or eight episodes, and seemed to suggest a different direction for the show than the one it's now increasingly taking.
I didn't look too carefully if the tiresome holodeck non-issue was brought up, but it's safe to say Starfleet had some sort of holographic technology. In TNG they only mentioned the technology they had seen before the Galaxy Class wasn't of: "...this level of sophistication."
While this season has been off its best, I don't think this is the case. They wanted to do these stories, they picked them. There's a list of greatest hits they wanted to do with a big budget. Holodeck was in the top 10.They're doing season 7, out-of-ideas, fuck-it-lets-goof-around episodes in season 3. Not a good episode. Not a good sign when there are two and a half seasons to go.
And the TOS bit at the very start was the drizzling shits. It was laughing at TOS, not laughing with TOS. Not how you do it.
I do love the idea of Spock banging his way through the entire female senior staff on the Enterprise
Disagree with the "laughing at them" observation, I gave my thought on that in my review.
The 'theme' song narration having an 84 month mission... or, 7 years, which is the highest a show in the franchise got. (And that we'll never see again.) Nice nod.
"Number One" holodeck version is clearly Lucille Ball.
Holodeck "Pike" is an amalgamation of multiple writers of that era. (Mount did great there. He clearly has the most fun with off character episodes.)
Holodeck "Uhura" and her speech... it was very much a nice sentiment, and echoes what a lot of fans feel, including myself. Might feel a bit over the top on the delivery, but it works well.
I actually figured out "Spock" was not real from the jump... this was pretty much exactly what was done in "Elementary, Dear Data". But being honest... I prefer that episode to this one because while the character work for Scotty and La'an was good, it was pretty hollow otherwise. With the TNG one, there is the fun factor, character work with Data, Geordi, and Pulaski, AND we get some meatier stuff with questions like the nature of A.I. (Moriarity) and how if we create it, even accidentally, how responsible are we for its well being.
I like Scotty here, though it was kind of too 'after school special' with Una's message at the end. We know a crew is a team. (I do credit her with making the point, though that should already be part of the core training of Starfleet officers.)
La'an was really good here. Good character beats. (Her outfit reminded of Carmen San Diego.) Very good stuff...
Except for her and Spock apparently are going to be a thing now. First Spock and Chapel, that fails. La'an and Kirk, that fails. Now, them together. It's too soap opera like. Too tropey. So, after La'an, who is next: Una or Erica? Place your bets, folks!
The "bloopers" at the end were completely scripted. I think they were trying for what SUPERNATURAL did a couple times, like in "Yellow Fever" when we get the full version of Jensen lip singing "Eye of the Tiger"... that was a real thing, wasn't scripted. And hilarious. The bloopers, while okay, weren't as funny as they were meant to be. Didn't feel natural, for lack of a better term.
Question: Batel. Not even a mention, when she would be dead within a few days, and we don't know if Spock working with the chimera blossom had any effect. Not even a log entry to say she is at a starbase medical facility or something?
I think the problem with this episode, and what seems to be apparent with other SNW episodes where everyone is off-character, is that it feels more like an audition session for the actors for their NEXT project, so they don't get typecast as what they are here. (A common issue with many actors back in the day, they would often have difficulty finding roles that are different than what they are most known for.) I feel like that while this may be good for the actors, it robs the audience of more time with the characters that we are watching the show for in the first place. The integrity, for lack of a better term, of the ACTUAL characters of the show should be the priority, not the next gig for the actors. (Which, by the way, they all knew what they signed up for when they took their roles. And to be blunt, they'll get convention money for the rest of their lives, even if they don't find as many roles.)
I love fun episodes, and this one is fairly fun. BUT... the best fun ones have some more meaning and meat to it beyond the fun. Like "OUR MAN BASHIR": we get a nice look at Bashir's psyche and Garak's analysis of his 'hero' thoughts. Or "TAKE ME OUT TO THE HOLOSUITE": we see Sisko's obsessive streak and how he lost his cool with Rom, but owned up to his mistake, and how one can lose sight of what's important. Or "A PIECE OF THE ACTION", where we see how small actions can have drastic consequences for a society and the need to help fix the mess that was created.
I can see they were going for an homage to TOS and what went on at that time... it was an attempt to be the "TRIALS AND TRIBBLE-ATIONS" or "FLASHBACK" of the current era. It was MAYBE as good as the latter, but most certainly fell WAY short of the former. GALAXY QUEST and the U.S.S. Callister episodes of BLACK MIRROR did a far better job, quite frankly. Even STARGATE SG-1's "WORMHOLE X-TREME" was much better.
I didn't love it, and I didn't hate it. It had some fun parts, but the soap opera thing just brings it down more. Was a 5, but that made this a 4.
Side note: seeing that the co-writer of this, Kathryn Lyn, was the writer of "wej Duj" on LOWER DECKS is really disappointing, but it does underscore how different formats can lead to really different levels of quality from a writer.
"Number One" holodeck version is clearly Lucille Ball.
Holodeck "Pike" is an amalgamation of multiple writers of that era. (Mount did great there. He clearly has the most fun with off character episodes.)
Holodeck "Uhura" and her speech... it was very much a nice sentiment, and echoes what a lot of fans feel, including myself. Might feel a bit over the top on the delivery, but it works well.
I actually figured out "Spock" was not real from the jump... this was pretty much exactly what was done in "Elementary, Dear Data". But being honest... I prefer that episode to this one because while the character work for Scotty and La'an was good, it was pretty hollow otherwise. With the TNG one, there is the fun factor, character work with Data, Geordi, and Pulaski, AND we get some meatier stuff with questions like the nature of A.I. (Moriarity) and how if we create it, even accidentally, how responsible are we for its well being.
I like Scotty here, though it was kind of too 'after school special' with Una's message at the end. We know a crew is a team. (I do credit her with making the point, though that should already be part of the core training of Starfleet officers.)
La'an was really good here. Good character beats. (Her outfit reminded of Carmen San Diego.) Very good stuff...
Except for her and Spock apparently are going to be a thing now. First Spock and Chapel, that fails. La'an and Kirk, that fails. Now, them together. It's too soap opera like. Too tropey. So, after La'an, who is next: Una or Erica? Place your bets, folks!
The "bloopers" at the end were completely scripted. I think they were trying for what SUPERNATURAL did a couple times, like in "Yellow Fever" when we get the full version of Jensen lip singing "Eye of the Tiger"... that was a real thing, wasn't scripted. And hilarious. The bloopers, while okay, weren't as funny as they were meant to be. Didn't feel natural, for lack of a better term.
Question: Batel. Not even a mention, when she would be dead within a few days, and we don't know if Spock working with the chimera blossom had any effect. Not even a log entry to say she is at a starbase medical facility or something?
I think the problem with this episode, and what seems to be apparent with other SNW episodes where everyone is off-character, is that it feels more like an audition session for the actors for their NEXT project, so they don't get typecast as what they are here. (A common issue with many actors back in the day, they would often have difficulty finding roles that are different than what they are most known for.) I feel like that while this may be good for the actors, it robs the audience of more time with the characters that we are watching the show for in the first place. The integrity, for lack of a better term, of the ACTUAL characters of the show should be the priority, not the next gig for the actors. (Which, by the way, they all knew what they signed up for when they took their roles. And to be blunt, they'll get convention money for the rest of their lives, even if they don't find as many roles.)
I love fun episodes, and this one is fairly fun. BUT... the best fun ones have some more meaning and meat to it beyond the fun. Like "OUR MAN BASHIR": we get a nice look at Bashir's psyche and Garak's analysis of his 'hero' thoughts. Or "TAKE ME OUT TO THE HOLOSUITE": we see Sisko's obsessive streak and how he lost his cool with Rom, but owned up to his mistake, and how one can lose sight of what's important. Or "A PIECE OF THE ACTION", where we see how small actions can have drastic consequences for a society and the need to help fix the mess that was created.
I can see they were going for an homage to TOS and what went on at that time... it was an attempt to be the "TRIALS AND TRIBBLE-ATIONS" or "FLASHBACK" of the current era. It was MAYBE as good as the latter, but most certainly fell WAY short of the former. GALAXY QUEST and the U.S.S. Callister episodes of BLACK MIRROR did a far better job, quite frankly. Even STARGATE SG-1's "WORMHOLE X-TREME" was much better.
I didn't love it, and I didn't hate it. It had some fun parts, but the soap opera thing just brings it down more. Was a 5, but that made this a 4.
Side note: seeing that the co-writer of this, Kathryn Lyn, was the writer of "wej Duj" on LOWER DECKS is really disappointing, but it does underscore how different formats can lead to really different levels of quality from a writer.
Not the only SNW episode she's written. She co-wrote Charades last season, and also co-wrote episode 7 this season. 7 isn't the Vulcan episode, that's episode 8.
Episode 7 based off the name I think is the Starfleet documentary episode.
Which proves my point, because "Charades" was just okay, too. Just not great.
Speaking of Charades, I do have some issues with Spock being a love interest magnant with Chapel and now La'An and part of that is I really wished we could see T'Pring again. I liked her character. And the episode itself was not a Season 2 best, but it wasn't bad.
For what's worth, Khan's mother was named Kaur in my novels.
Is T'Pring gone now until Amok Time?
Who knows? We still have a few seasons to go.
Personally, I'd be surprised if they didn't pick up that thread again, but that's just speculation on my part.
I hope not. I thought I read something about them wanting to pick up on the Sybok thing from the first season, but I don't really know.
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