Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x03 - "Shuttle to Kenfori"

[Nyotarules]

I thought the complaint about Una's hairstyle in this episode. Not Uhura's.

My thread was not connected to the comments on Una's hairstyle

 

[The Wormhole]

We ALSO know that M'Benga fought in the Klingon war and the Enterprise very much did not, meaning that M'Benga wasn't on the Enterprise before SNW or if he was transferred out to fight in the war then transferred back.

We see M'Benga newly transferred aboard the Enterprise in SNW's series premiere and his history with Pike is explained there.

 

[Noname Given]

The ironic thing is that by taking justice into his own hands instead of letting courts/legal process decide how Dak'rah should be punished, M'Benga becomes more like the Klingons he claims to hate.

Not really as the entire reason M'Benga was being followed because Dak'rah's daughter needed to kill M'Benga to regain her family honor ONLY because M'Benga killed him before she could.

 

[Pauln6]

Not really as the entire reason M'Benga was being followed because Dak'rah's daughter needed to kill M'Benga to regain her family honor ONLY because M'Benga killed him before she could.

But surely M'Benga's situation mirrors Ortegas? If neither of them had acted, things would have rumbled along to a satisfactory conclusion. Is it trying to throw shade at NuPike's admiration for NuKirk's ability to leap before he looks? I suppose, if M'Benga had not acted, Ortegas would not have had to act, as there would have only been zombie Klingons on the planet... but then would Pike and M'Benga have died without the Klingons' help...? Oof.

 

[El Maestro]

- They are going to use Batel to explain how the “Arena” Gorn exist, aren’t they?

I will be annoyed if they structure an entire major storyline just to placate screeching babies on the internet.

 

[TRON JA307020]

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That wasnt murder. It was a military action. Kruge just finished destroying the grissom and killing kirks son. If Kirk would not have blown the Enterprise the klingons would have had a Federation starship and the genesis files. No telling how many people would have been killed. It was a necessary military action.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

That wasnt murder. It was a military action. Kruger just finished destroying the grissom and killing kirks son. If Kirk would not have blown the Enterprise the klingons would have had a Federation starship and the genesis files. No telling how many people would have been killed. It was a necessary military action.

Absolutely.

 

[Noname Given]

But surely M'Benga's situation mirrors Ortegas? If neither of them had acted, things would have rumbled along to a satisfactory conclusion. Is it trying to throw shade at NuPike's admiration for NuKirk's ability to leap before he looks? I suppose, if M'Benga had not acted, Ortegas would not have had to act, as there would have only been zombie Klingons on the planet... but then would Pike and M'Benga have died without the Klingons' help...? Oof.

Apples and oranges here my friend.

Dr. N'Vbenga wasn't under his Superior officers orders not to fight or kill Klingons. On the planet And in looking at the situation where he killed the Klingon were criminal turned Federation diplomat back in SNW season 2 episode 8), he gave that Klingon numerous chances to walk away before he killed him; and we honestly do not know who instigated that particular fight as it was blurred behind a on transparent medical partition.

Erica Ortega suggestion was completely discussed in the briefing room by multiple parties; and the officer in command of the ship considered the plan to reckless and went with her own.

Later on the bridge Ortegas knowingly made a decision to go against those orders and create a situation that she believed would force Una to have to implement her plan. She put the entire ship at risk, and even risked a possible diplomatic incident that could have plunged the Federation into another Federation/Klingon War.

And with what we saw on the planet, it's not 100% certain that Dr M'Benga and Captain Pike would not have survived as they were both about to board the Klingon shuttlecraft when they were beamed away - so no, if Ortegas had followed Commander Una's orders, it may not have led to an unsatisfactory result.

 

[nightwind1]

Someone probably read an article on the zombie fungus.

Ophiocordyceps unilateralis - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Or played or watched The Last of Us.

 

[Jedi Marso]

This modern Trek trope with everyone in the entire chain of command disobeying orders, regulations, policy, and procedures on a weekly basis is weak sauce and bad storytelling. Yes, there were instances in TOS and TNG when those things happened, but generally speaking the crew followed orders and acted within the boundaries of starfleet regulations and Federation law. Disobey orders once in a rare while and you are a clever maverick. Do it ALL THE DAMN TIME and you've broken suspension of disbelief- starfleet would drop you like a hot potato, and rightly so.

 

[nightwind1]

Solid outing.

1. It helps if you don't think of them as zombies, but more as mutants. I got a real Fallout New Vegas vibe here, especially when they were in the lab. I'm thinking of the vault where the people were turned into plant mutants. If you never played New Vegas the above reference is meaningless.

At least none of them were yelling "Gary!"

(Gary is my first name, by the way, so the first time I was exploring that Vault, and the first one yelled my name, I nearly freaked the fuck out!)

 

[F. King Daniel]

Disobey orders once in a rare while and you are a clever maverick. Do it ALL THE DAMN TIME and you've broken suspension of disbelief- starfleet would drop you like a hot potato, and rightly so.

I read it more as Starfleet is a fucking shambles and everyone is going rogue