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‘Star Trek: Strange New Worlds’ Renewed for Fifth and Final Season

Well I have to disagree on the added to it. Spock and Chapels open sexual retaltionship for example. Spock'e open relationship with T'pring..a relationship the entire bridge crew on TOS was shocked at. I mean it was an outright Retcon...not just added to but literally changed.
We've no clue what Spock and Chapel's relationship was prior to TOS. We only know what it was in TOS. We also don't know about him and T'Pring. Shocked (if that was actually their reaction) is about Spock's use of the term "wife". So they can cut to commercial on a dramatic sting
T'PRING [on viewscreen]: Spock, it is I.
SPOCK: T'Pring, parted from me and never parted, never and always touching and touched. We meet at the appointed place.
T'PRING [on viewscreen]: Spock, parted from me and never parted, never and always touching and touched. I await you.
UHURA: She's lovely, Mister Spock. Who is she?
SPOCK: She is T'Pring. My wife.
Having just watched the scene, their reaction is more puzzled that shocked. Uhura is the only future SNW character who wonders about T'Pring's identity. IIRC, she and T'Pring have never met on SNW.
 
Sure they have done it. Added Backstory that makes sense is great. Stuff that doesn't make sense not so much. Spock and Chapel. Chapel was obviously pining for Spock during TOS. Spock simply could not reciprocate that. He would not allow himself to do so. Unless of course under some type of influence. SNW (about 6-7 before TOS. Both are doing it like a pair of Rabbits all over the ship. 😂
You ever pine for a ex? It happens. Exes not interested for various reasons are a thing too.
 
The only person who outright said that they didn't recognize T'Pring was Uhura, so as long as the two of them never meet in Strange New Worlds, nothing about that scene is contradicted. Chapel is shocked at the proclamation that T'Pring is Spock's wife, and even with the new information we have from SNW, why wouldn't she be? She knew T'Pring as Spock's fiance, but not wife. Nowhere in Amok Time is it ever said that Spock and T'Pring had not seen each other since their bonding ceremony.

So when did Spock get married if Tping was just his fiancee in SNW and Chapel never knew? Seems like a stretch that She never knew they were married since her and Spock had an intense sexual relationship 6 or 7 years previously and she did indeed meet T'pring during SNW. Also I find it hard to believe that Uhura had zero knowledge of T'pring during SNW. You would think she would have heard through at least her friend Chapel. 😂. Let's face it the whole thing is a stretch. It's very thin and before SNW this was never the way it was intended or even portrayed in TOS. Everyone is surprised by T'pring in Amok time. Chapel included.

It's like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. By God they will keep trying though. 😂
 
So have all the new shows. Bar the main cast of Prodigy, but the actual Starfleet officers we see do.

Not really. They've added to, not changed.


Ditto to this.
The Starfleet crew of DISCO definitely did not act like professionals quite often.

Otherwise we wouldn't have so many instances of them having breakdowns in the middle of emergencies or ticking clocks with lives on the line. It's why couldn't take them seriously as professional, Starfleet officers.
 
And that's not forget that the only time she went around openly expressing her undying love for Spock was when she was under the influence of the Psi 2000 virus. The same virus that moved Tasha Yar to bone an android.
 
The Starfleet crew of DISCO definitely did not act like professionals quite often.

Otherwise we wouldn't have so many instances of them having breakdowns in the middle of emergencies or ticking clocks with lives on the line. It's why couldn't take them seriously as professional, Starfleet officers.
What examples?
 
Probably when Chapel goes and gets married to someone she only just met.
Not buying any of it. The tone in TOS just doesn't support it. It's a complete rewrite. Also Spock can't marry Tpring In SNW. Because he already technically is. It was an marriage arrangement from their parents at 7 years old. Less than a marriage but more than a betrothal According to Spock.
 
So when did Spock get married if Tping was just his fiancee in SNW and Chapel never knew? Seems like a stretch that She never knew they were married since her and Spock had an intense sexual relationship 6 or 7 years previously and she did indeed meet T'pring during SNW. Also I find it hard to believe that Uhura had zero knowledge of T'pring during SNW. You would think she would have heard through at least her friend Chapel. 😂. Let's face it the whole thing is a stretch. It's very thin and before SNW this was never the way it was intended or even portrayed in TOS. Everyone is surprised by T'pring in Amok time. Chapel included.

It's like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. By God they will keep trying though. 😂

And the Gorn. And the aesthetics. And the technology. And, god forbid you even think of bringing up Robert April, or Transporter technician Kyle.
 
Klingons have been changed more than the Gorn have, but now I feel like we're just repeating the same circle that started four or five pages ago.

Klingons got an explanation, and even before that, the only thing that really changed were their foreheads. The current "gorn" bare no similarities at all.
 
What examples?
For example...

"Face the Strange" - Stamets having his 'woe is me' with Rayner there with a literal ticking clock happening.

"Lagrange Point" - Burnham starting that relationship conversation with Book in the middle of a stealth mission on the Breen ship. (I'll give her credit for at least acknowledging it was not the right time for it, which was a first for the show. But it was NOT the time for it.)
 
Worse than Uhura's, "Captain I'm scared"?
Worse than Janeway's reaction to Ransom's crew?
Worse than Pike's hesitation in the cliffhanger at the end of the last season?
Worse than Odo giving into the temptation of the female Changeling?
Worse than Archer's temper tantrum over the people who got upset over Porthos pissing on their sacred tree?
It's almost as if people have emotions that can be unpredictable and uncontrollable.
 
I didn't complain.
That's nice, but others certainly did.
I don't remember much complaining about intentional continuity rewrites. Small errors yes. Or small retcons like during Enterprise they ignored that women could not command a starship. Otherwise the Berman era respected established continuity much better than what we had gotten from Kurtzman.
There were huge swathes of fandom complaining about Voyager's Dark Frontier rewriting history regarding Federation contact with the Borg. And then when Enterprise came along, there was someone every week complaining about some perceived continuity error the show made, often contradicting themselves. IE, in the first season people complained about the fact the show didn't use TOS Klingons, those same then later complained when the explanation came that it was "unnecessary."
Klingons got an explanation,
Twenty-five years later. Anyone who is okay with that owes it to themselves to withhold complaints about any changes made in the modern shows until twenty-five years have gone by.
 
The problem is the frequency which it occurs in DISCO.

Going back to the topic before this subject came up...


For the most part, I'm fine with how SNW has been. Any bits that don't line up fully with TOS can mostly be explained away.
 
And the Gorn. And the aesthetics. And the technology. And, god forbid you even think of bringing up Robert April, or Transporter technician Kyle.

Haha. The Kyle thing was weird. 😂 The aesthetics I don't mind too much except for the rescaling of the ship and the huge cavernous turbo lift interior that makes absolutely ZERO sense. Some of the tech like exterior robot mechanics yeah those would have come in handy during the Khan incident.... 😂...but instead they sloppily patched the ship up with some "boards". 😂 And yes those Gorn.....Oh my they are totally rewritten....
 
There were huge swathes of fandom complaining about Voyager's Dark Frontier rewriting history regarding Federation contact with the Borg. And then when Enterprise came along, there was someone every week complaining about some perceived continuity error the show made, often contradicting themselves. IE, in the first season people complained about the fact the show didn't use TOS Klingons, those same then later complained when the explanation came that it was "unnecessary."

Twenty-five years later. Anyone who is okay with that owes it to themselves to withhold complaints about any changes made in the modern shows until twenty-five years have gone by.
Yeah, I totally remember the vitriol being thrown towards the "Killer Bs" on this very board during the Dark Frontier discussions.

Also agreed about the Klingon explanation. The augment virus wasn't written on holy script and hidden in a vault to break out by the decree of the Great Bird in time of low ratings, it was a retcon no different than anything done in the Kurtzman era. People who think it's any different really need to get a sense of perspective.
 
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