Fake!!!!! It Can't be!!!
Transition and explanation of SNW into TOS technology
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I prefer a more nuanced approach, where only the things that haven't appeared in Picard, Prodigy or Lower Decks are fake.
What's interesting is that when DSC, PIC, LDS and PRO started, there was little to no continuity between any of them, almost as if one could make the case that each show took place in its own continuity/universe/whatever. But then later on there was this abrupt change to try to make them all fit together, with haphazard explanations (or none at all) for the discontinuities.
It's a dramatic presentation. Some creative liberties have occurred.
Phasers still phaser.
Transporters still beam.
Warp drive still warps and drives.
I'm not really fussed by more details. This is like saying a new Zelda game can't possibly be connected to the old ones because I can see grass and bugs flying around on the Switch vs. what I could see on my Nintendo 64.
same universe, different timeline.
First Contact, a temporal cold war, Daniels tech, Borg tech, and Romulan time travelers have completely altered some events and all of the aesthetics.
How in the world did I miss THIS thread? Lol.
First Contact, a temporal cold war, Daniels tech, Borg tech, and Romulan time travelers have completely altered some events and all of the aesthetics.
How in the world did I miss THIS thread? Lol.
How about the same (prime) timeline, but altered slightly in the details due to some many time-traveling shenanigans, despite attempts being made to restore things exactly as they were? 
This could even be used to explain some of the discontinuities in TOS where changes in terminology and even references to structural elements of the Enterprise, or why the name of the
organizational authorities are different from episode to episode or season to season, and seem to be bracketed by episodes featuring time travel?
The Kelvin timeline, on the other hand, is a completely separate parallel timeline resulting from no attempt being made to restore the original timeline.
This could even be used to explain some of the discontinuities in TOS where changes in terminology and even references to structural elements of the Enterprise, or why the name of the
organizational authorities are different from episode to episode or season to season, and seem to be bracketed by episodes featuring time travel?
The Kelvin timeline, on the other hand, is a completely separate parallel timeline resulting from no attempt being made to restore the original timeline.
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As the Doctor said (no, not that Doctor), "wibbly wobbly, timey wimey".How about the same (prime) timeline, but altered slightly in the details due to some many time-traveling shenanigans, despite attempts being made to restore things exactly as they were?
As quoted by Wesley Crusher in Prodigy!
I still need to watch the second season.
this has been my argument for YEARS.How about the same (prime) timeline, but altered slightly in the details due to some many time-traveling shenanigans, despite attempts being made to restore things exactly as they were?
This could even be used to explain some of the discontinuities in TOS where changes in terminology and even references to structural elements of the Enterprise, or why the name of the
organizational authorities are different from episode to episode or season to season, and seem to be bracketed by episodes featuring time travel?
The Kelvin timeline, on the other, hand is a completely separate parallel timeline resulting from no attempt being made to restore the original timeline.
In my interpretation the entire temporal Cold War happened in a blink of an eye during the events of first contact. Things were basically the same when they got back because of a Time war and time cops and maybe even a little section 31, but the entire 22nd and 23rd centuries were different, some small ways, some huge ways. Remember, Archer and the NX were supposed to die in S1 but were saved and, in my opinion, repurposed and nudged to help hold the timeline together. I wouldn't even be surprised if it's original ship name was something different.
There was a fan theory that it was 'Dauntless', because Voyager had the slipstream-enabled Dauntless NX-01-A.
Obviously that ship was a fake, but the Voyager crew thought it initially seemed authentic, so may have understood it being a fitting name for a breakthrough new engine design.
But then after First Contact, Lily or Cochrane thinks Enterprise would be a more fitting name. The only thing is that 'Hope and Fear' was after the release of the film, and its events had previously been discussed in the same season with Seven nothing that ”the Borg were present during those events", which suggests it's post any timeline change.
Could be that the first Federation Starship was the USS DAUNTLESS NCC-01, and that the Voyager crew assumed the ship was named after that historic vessel, only with an "NX" prefix, noting that it's an experimental ship, rather than an NX Class ship as was the class naming convention back in the 2150s.
That's a more straightforward explanation than most, though I've never thought it needed explaining. It was always meant to be a deliberate clue that something wasn't right.
Also Prodigy features a new ship named after the Dauntless NX-01-A, so that ship has remained un-renamed by time travel.
Also Prodigy features a new ship named after the Dauntless NX-01-A, so that ship has remained un-renamed by time travel.
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