The F**k word in Star Trek

[fireproof78]

Neither do I.
It's science fiction and not science prediction after all. lol

But I do hold Star Trek special as it's something I've grown up with, enjoyed with family and friends.

Mileage will vary.

I treat Trek as talking about human behavior. Swearing is a part of human behavior.

 

[Newt]

I treat Trek as talking about human behavior. Swearing is a part of human behavior.

Each to their own.
Trek to me is escapism and entertainment. I watch it because I enjoy it. A vision of a better future plus compelling stories and characters. New ideas and ways of thinking. Awe inspiring special effects and orchestral soundtracks.
Having potty mouth characters is basically a bad faux pas and goes against everything I enjoy about the shows.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I treat Trek as talking about human behavior. Swearing is a part of human behavior.

To each his own.

For me, the Star Trek Franchise's TV Shows/Movies is to be treated as a "historical drama", albeit a "future historical drama"
You use appropriate Future Period Era Costumes, languages, etc.

That's what it means to me.

YMMV.

 

[Nyotarules]

Sometimes you dont seem like a fan. Star trek is special to most of us.

Speak only for yourself and keep away from the gatekeeping

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Hell, some people claim The Expanse is one of the best sci-fi shows of recent years which Star Trek should try to be more like. Then Star Trek has its characters say Fuck just like the characters on The Expanse do and those same people start crying "that doesn't happen on Star Trek!"

I would've liked Voyager to be a bit more like Battlestar Galactica as well, doesn't mean I want Chakotay to be a drunk and Paris to be tormented by an imaginary robot woman in a red dress.

 

[The Wormhole]

I'd be down with drunk Chakotay.

 

[Newt]

Maybe trek needs a made up swear word? haha

Red Dwarf has Smeg, Mork had shazbot etc

 

[fireproof78]

Each to their own.
Trek to me is escapism and entertainment. I watch it because I enjoy it. A vision of a better future plus compelling stories and characters. New ideas and ways of thinking. Awe inspiring special effects and orchestral soundtracks.
Having potty mouth characters is basically a bad faux pas and goes against everything I enjoy about the shows.

But they still use it. It's not taboo to swear but it's not common either.

And I enjoy all that you do. Swearing is not a detriment to me.

To each his own.

For me, the Star Trek Franchise's TV Shows/Movies is to be treated as a "historical drama", albeit a "future historical drama"
You use appropriate Future Period Era Costumes, languages, etc.

That's what it means to me.

YMMV.

To treat it like that and then deny swearing is ignoring aspects of human behavior. How do you create future language?

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

To treat it like that and then deny swearing is ignoring aspects of human behavior. How do you create future language?

Why Japanese doesn't need swear words.

You do know there are other languages and other cultures that manage to evolve w/o needing swear words.

 

[fireproof78]

Sometimes you dont seem like a fan. Star trek is special to most of us.

I didn't say it wasn't special to me. But it's specialness doesn't derive from language or being our future.

 

[fireproof78]

Why Japanese doesn't need swear words.

You do know there are other languages and other cultures that manage to evolve w/o needing swear words.

Yes, I do know this.

I'm not saying it can't happen. I'm saying it doesn't bother me if it does happen in Trek based upon the historical and cultural influences that show how united Earth, then the Federation and Starfleet would have grown. You would see varying influences including the potential for swear words or other expressions.

 

[Frontis]

Well, my imagination is tha they just don't say "fu**" in the future. Maybe they have other words for it

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I'm not saying it can't happen. I'm saying it doesn't bother me if it does happen in Trek based upon the historical and cultural influences that show how united Earth, then the Federation and Starfleet would have grown. You would see varying influences including the potential for swear words or other expressions.

IMO, the Vulcans would have a heavy influence on StarFleet & Professional-ism in the work place.
They don't seem like the type to mess around & have strict standards of behavior along with what's expected of StarFleet & Government Officials.

 

[fireproof78]

IMO, the Vulcans would have a heavy influence on StarFleet & Professional-ism in the work place.
They don't seem like the type to mess around & have strict standards of behavior along with what's expected of StarFleet & Government Officials.

And you have other races who value combat and arguing.

Swearing can be effective in communicating intensity of emotion that might benefit interacting with other races.

And even if there is a change to Starfleet that doesn't mean a prohibition type stance on swearing.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

And you have other races who value combat and arguing.

True, but even in the future, those who assimilate into StarFleet tone down their Combative-ness & Argumentative-ness to suit StarFleet's image & culture.

Swearing can be effective in communicating intensity of emotion that might benefit interacting with other races.

It's situational.

And even if there is a change to Starfleet that doesn't mean a prohibition type stance on swearing.

Of course, but that's on a personal off-time/private-time basis.
When you're on the clock, representing the UFP / StarFleet, there are Professional Expectations along with behavior & decorum.

 

[fireproof78]

True, but even in the future, those who assimilate into StarFleet tone down their Combative-ness & Argumentative-ness to suit StarFleet's image & culture.

They use it to further the Federation and it's causes.

It's situational.

Pie with a fork.

Of course, but that's on a personal off-time/private-time basis.
When you're on the clock, representing the UFP / StarFleet, there are Professional Expectations along with behavior &

Ok. And if never appropriate to swear for professionals?

Because I must work with unprofessional people in the counseling field.

 

[HotRod]

True, but even in the future, those who assimilate into StarFleet tone down their Combative-ness & Argumentative-ness to suit StarFleet's image & culture.

Have you seen TOS?

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

They use it to further the Federation and it's causes.

Wasn't that only used in special situations as a special negotiation tactic?

Pie with a fork.

Or you can use other utensils.

Ok. And if never appropriate to swear for professionals?

Because I must work with unprofessional people in the counseling field.

Everybody chooses how to present themselves.
If you find that to be "Professional", who am I to judge you?
I'm a outsider looking into your world.

You have your own standards to operate by.
I have mines.

Profanity in the Work Place is a purely subjective view point.
I choose to work with people who don't use Profanity unless it's in a private personal space.
That's how I like things to operate.
If you don't like it, ::shrugs::, oh well.
That's just what I prefer.

Don't let other people's PoV bother you.
It's ok to disagree on things.

Have you seen TOS?

Not yet. I've seen pretty most content that is TNG & newer.

Also, some of the TOS movies.

 

[TRON JA307020]

Each to their own.
Trek to me is escapism and entertainment. I watch it because I enjoy it. A vision of a better future plus compelling stories and characters. New ideas and ways of thinking. Awe inspiring special effects and orchestral soundtracks.
Having potty mouth characters is basically a bad faux pas and goes against everything I enjoy about the shows.

I totally agree Newt. In sttvh I got a kick out of how they explained lack of swearing on star trek. It was perfect and set up how the berman era series rarely used foul language. The worst we heard is when Data swore in STG. I feel they are just putting the F word in star trek to say they did it first. Its not a great milestone in my opinon.

 

[HotRod]

Not yet. I've seen pretty most content that is TNG & newer.

Also, some of the TOS movies.

That figures.