There are less incendiary ways to reference current politics. Hot-button topics belong in Misc or TNZ.We're talking about real life analogies and I used a current real world one to help with understanding why Dukat was seen by many fans as "not that bad". It is also relevant considering DS9's subject matter.
I thought that was what Trek was about? You've just talked about trolling and low quality posts, now you don't want to talk about real life political analogies? Unreal.
General Order 24 was a thing. Some more modern fans can head canon and handwave it away and pretend it didn't happen, but Scotty took Kirk's order seriously and didn't remotely pretend it was a ruse to trick the Eminian High Council into freeing the Enterprise officers from captivity.
And after Starfleet was willing to set off a bomb at the very core of Qo'noS in Season 1 of DSC I can totally believe that the "enlightened" Starfleet of the 23rd century employed very scary and ominous orders when it felt it needed to use them. Even Admiral Cornwell and Ambassador Sarek were willing to blow Qo'noS to bits and kill untold billions.
It doesn't surprise me that Starfleet is empowered to wield such terrible abilities. Kirk threatened it, Picard was willing to let cultures die, and Sisko rendered a planet uninhabitable for certain species.General Order 24 was a thing. Some more modern fans can head canon and handwave it away and pretend it didn't happen, but Scotty took Kirk's order seriously and didn't remotely pretend it was a ruse to trick the Eminian High Council into freeing the Enterprise officers from captivity.
And after Starfleet was willing to set off a bomb at the very core of Qo'noS in Season 1 of DSC I can totally believe that the "enlightened" Starfleet of the 23rd century employed very scary and ominous orders when it felt it needed to use them. Even Admiral Cornwell and Ambassador Sarek were willing to blow Qo'noS to bits and kill untold billions.
Forgot about Jean-Luc "Prime Deathrective" Picard!It doesn't surprise me that Starfleet is empowered to wield such terrible abilities. Kirk threatened it, Picard was willing to let cultures die, and Sisko rendered a planet uninhabitable for certain species.
They have great and terrible power.
And this is the same man that yells "who the hell are we to determine the natural course of evolution for these people" to Admiral Dougherty in Star Trek: Insurrection.Picard was perfectly willing to let Sarjenka's homeworld in the Selcundi Drema star system be destroyed just because "Prime Directive."
Picard was perfectly willing to let Sarjenka's homeworld in the Selcundi Drema star system be destroyed just because "Prime Directive."
Let them die was an interesting argument to make, and the idea they were fated to die. Janeway made a similar argument against Paris warning a race of imminent destruction.Forgot about Jean-Luc "Prime Deathrective" Picard!
Ethics are different in the future. They grow up in a different context and don't mourn.They always do make the ethical choice at the end of stories where the Prime Directive stops them from saving a world, that just makes the dilemma even more ridiculous. No one likes or agrees with this interpretation of the Prime Directive, not even the writers! But we're given the impression that stories like Pen Pals and Homeward are the exception and other ships are just letting millions die for no reason.
It's usually there to break or bend and give our characters a hero moment. Total forced drama.They always do make the ethical choice at the end of stories where the Prime Directive stops them from saving a world, that just makes the dilemma even more ridiculous. No one likes or agrees with this interpretation of the Prime Directive, not even the writers!
Eventually.But they do make the choice we would consider ethical now. In Pen Pals, Homeworld, Time and Again, Into Darkness, and so on.
Or the Occupation of Bajor.And I get the feeling even Kirk's crew would have let the authoritarian, brutal Roman civilization on planet 892-IV be and not given much of a crap had the human Merrick and other officers from a Federation ship not disappeared on that world six years before.
Fixed that for you.And I get the feeling even Kirk's crew would have let the authoritarian, brutal Roman civilization on planet892DCCCXCII-IV be and not given much of a crap had the human Merrick and other officers from a Federation ship not disappeared on that world six years before.
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