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Stargate Universe SPOILERS!!

ten years isn't long enough for a break. Following the Star trek model, we're only half way through ds9. Actual warranted callings for a break shouldn't be arriving till 2 years into universes when they realize that it's going now where and pointless... But the franchise isn't murdered till half way through the 4th series which assumes it is going to get 10 years and don't come close.

And following the Law & Order, CSI or even Dr. Who models more than one series could stay on the air. There are problems of cost and studio space though that the other series don't have a problem with, still if MGM wants to continue the franchise they'll find a way it's all up to them.
 
It sounds pretty official now.

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2008/04/istargate_universei_revealed.shtml

"The idea of Stargate Universe is that it is set on a ship that was part of an Ancient experiment that was set in motion probably millions of years ago -- one that they never saw to fruition, but that we can," Wright told GateWorld exclusively. "They got busy with the whole ascension thing."

The experiment is "to send a ship across the universe, and to send one ahead of it to seed the galaxies with Stargates, and that they would one day use the ninth chevron to get there [to the ship]. And that's what Stargate Universe is."

Millions of years ago (before their conflict with the Wraith and possibly even before they moved Atlantis to the Pegasus Galaxy), the show would reveal, the Ancients sent out two ships: an automated vessel to place Stargates throughout multiple galaxies in our universe, and a second ship to follow up and explore.

A standard, 7-symbol gate address allows for travel within the same galaxy. Use of the Stargate's eighth chevron allows for travel to a different galaxy. And the ninth chevron will allow the team to reach this second, still unmanned Ancient ship.

The series was pitched to SCI FI Channel last fall, just before the writer's strike -- which put a hold on the project. "The pitch was received very well," Wright said. "[But] we pitched an expensive series -- the idea we have is not cheap. I think we've proven ourselves, so ... 'Can we please have enough money to do it right this time?' And, if not, then honestly I don't want to do it. Why do it wrong?

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The strike and the potential cost of Stargate Universe are not the only reasons the show is not yet moving forward.

"Part of the reason it's taking a while is that Atlantis is currently on-going, and because we didn't want to go into development with anything during the writer's strike -- because it seemed inappropriate. Even though we're Canadian, we recognized it is for the American marketplace."

"Internally, Robert and I are a little bit torn, because we had such a great time making The Ark of Truth and Stargate: Continuum. Making one or two of those a year would be a damn fine thing to do! Honestly, it takes up a big chunk of time writing it, a big chunk of time making it, and then the post on a movie is more than twice as complicated as post on the biggest episodes. So it's not like you can just knock one off while you're making a television show. It's just too much."

Wright said that he is not anxious to return to a schedule that requires the Vancouver team to produce 40 hours of television each year, indicating that Stargate Universe may wait until Atlantis has concluded its run.

When the show does begin, Wright believes that it has to both move the franchise forward to attract new viewers, and remain true to the established formula. "It has to feel like Stargate, and it has to feel new. That's the tight rope, that's the balance you have to maintain, and that's the challenge.

"To put it in its simplest terms, if we had ever just done SG-2as a series it would never have worked. It's not the C.S.I. model."

Wright really does sound like a complete idiot.

Seriously, this premise sounds awful. As though we really need to have more Ancients/ascension storylines after 5 years of getting it non-stop. Give it a rest for christ sake
 
The only part relating to the Ancients is the backstory. Once they get onto the ship, they can pretty much do whatever they want.

And I mean that. The fact that there is no galaxy-wide enemy to put everything down, and how the Ancients never went to these places means that TPTB have no bounds as to what they can do...well, except for the budget. That's a big bound.

But anyway, this is different from what we've had before. In fact, this is even better than Star Trek, since this is truly going where no man (or Ancient) has gone before. Despite what you think of the writers, the concept itself is pretty damn good, now that I really think about it.
 
"[But] we pitched an expensive series -- the idea we have is not cheap. I think we've proven ourselves, so ... 'Can we please have enough money to do it right this time?' And, if not, then honestly I don't want to do it. Why do it wrong?


Ummm... how is the show expensive? How is it any different than the other two shows?

And more importantly, why do you need more money? I watched the SG-1 movie, it got 7 million to make, I see no proof of that money anywhere in the film.
 
No humanoids.

No forests.

That's what'll make it expensive. As the Ancients never went to these places, the alien life will be truly alien, and their civilizations can be in ANY states of development, which means a lot of CGI for big alien cities and such.
 
Bring on the renaissance fair villages and pine trees:techman:

the alien makeup would probably cost too much. Off the top of my head I can remember only a few alien makeup characters.Granted it has been 10 years and I can't remember ever single detail.

The Unas

That fish creature that captured Daniel in season 1 or 2

Alien Smugglers that Cam and Teal'c encountered
 
No humanoids.

No forests.

That's what'll make it expensive. As the Ancients never went to these places, the alien life will be truly alien, and their civilizations can be in ANY states of development, which means a lot of CGI for big alien cities and such.

This is the ship that followed their stargate seeder ship so I'm sure there'd be plenty of both humans and forests.
 
The only part relating to the Ancients is the backstory. Once they get onto the ship, they can pretty much do whatever they want.

And I mean that. The fact that there is no galaxy-wide enemy to put everything down, and how the Ancients never went to these places means that TPTB have no bounds as to what they can do...well, except for the budget. That's a big bound.

But anyway, this is different from what we've had before. In fact, this is even better than Star Trek, since this is truly going where no man (or Ancient) has gone before. Despite what you think of the writers, the concept itself is pretty damn good, now that I really think about it.

This is Cooper/Wright/Mallozi we're talking about. It'll be filled with Ancients. That's the whole premise of the show anyway!

I have zero confidence in TPTB's creativity, especially when given no bounds. We'll no doubt get humanoid aliens, forests, basic evil bad guys, rehashed stories and replicators.

I can also seriously see this series getting cancelled rather early in its life. Just a prediction and I'll obviously hold real judgment till I see it, but for now, I really do think that premise sounds awful.
 
This is Cooper/Wright/Mallozi we're talking about. It'll be filled with Ancients. That's the whole premise of the show anyway!

For one thing Mallozzi doesn't have anything to do with this nor does his writing partner Paul Mullie this came from Brad Wright and Robert C Cooper and there's no hint of any Ancients in the article, it's a problem they abandoned.
 
Oh sorry, it doesn't have anything to do with Mallozi. My point still stands.

There will be Ancients and ascension and replicators aplenty in SGU, trust me
 
Oh sorry, it doesn't have anything to do with Mallozi. My point still stands.

There will be Ancients and ascension and replicators aplenty in SGU, trust me

Your point still stands. The same people who made SG1/SGA are still going to be the ones writing for the show, unless Bridge hires new writers. If new writers came in, the premise might be something fresh. But I doubt it. It sounds like Trek "boldly going where no man has gone before".
 
Bring on the renaissance fair villages and pine trees:techman:

the alien makeup would probably cost too much. Off the top of my head I can remember only a few alien makeup characters.Granted it has been 10 years and I can't remember ever single detail.

The Unas

That fish creature that captured Daniel in season 1 or 2

Alien Smugglers that Cam and Teal'c encountered
Plus the Space NASCAR episode... :)
 
If you read through this thread I was surprisingly optimistic for the new show..

As soon as dumbass opened his mouth I'm not anymore.

And they said this idea was supposed to be a DVD/TV movie. I think it would be really smart if it was just a 13 hour miniseries. Making 2 hours into 13 should give them plenty of time to do whatever, get the story out there but not milk it.

This is milking a dead horse and hopefully someone at MGM makes a good call and fires these idiots because it's too late like Star Trek.
 
No humanoids.

No forests.

That's what'll make it expensive. As the Ancients never went to these places, the alien life will be truly alien, and their civilizations can be in ANY states of development, which means a lot of CGI for big alien cities and such.

This is the ship that followed their stargate seeder ship so I'm sure there'd be plenty of both humans and forests.

Nope. Seeding Stargates =/= seeding life.
 
Your point still stands. The same people who made SG1/SGA are still going to be the ones writing for the show, unless Bridge hires new writers. If new writers came in, the premise might be something fresh. But I doubt it. It sounds like Trek "boldly going where no man has gone before".

You are leaping to conclusions here. While Cooper and Wright are the creators of the series, we have no idea who will be on the writing staff (though, I wouldn't be surprised it some of the writers from Atlantis "gate" over to "Universe"). Plus, all indication suggests this series is a few years away.

No need to get the pitchforks out yet. :)
 
No humanoids.

No forests.

That's what'll make it expensive. As the Ancients never went to these places, the alien life will be truly alien, and their civilizations can be in ANY states of development, which means a lot of CGI for big alien cities and such.

This is the ship that followed their stargate seeder ship so I'm sure there'd be plenty of both humans and forests.

Nope. Seeding Stargates =/= seeding life.

Name just one planet that the Ancients seeded that didn't have a stargate.
 
Your point still stands. The same people who made SG1/SGA are still going to be the ones writing for the show, unless Bridge hires new writers. If new writers came in, the premise might be something fresh. But I doubt it. It sounds like Trek "boldly going where no man has gone before".

You are leaping to conclusions here. While Cooper and Wright are the creators of the series, we have no idea who will be on the writing staff (though, I wouldn't be surprised it some of the writers from Atlantis "gate" over to "Universe"). Plus, all indication suggests this series is a few years away.

No need to get the pitchforks out yet. :)

Knowing TPTB, this show will be on the air in a year. With the exact same tired, boring writers that have been with the show for 12 years.
 
This is the ship that followed their stargate seeder ship so I'm sure there'd be plenty of both humans and forests.

Nope. Seeding Stargates =/= seeding life.

Name just one planet that the Ancients seeded that didn't have a stargate.

That's a fallacy.

A planet that's been seeded with life typically has a Stargate yes, but it doesn't imply the other way around. Basically, life seeded --> Stargate deposited, but Stargate deposited -/-> life seeded. What if they just dropped a Stargate on the surface and stopped there? Why keep going?

In fact, there is no mention of seeding life within that article at all; it's all about planting Stargates.

But obviously I can't find any examples of this since, of the 2 galaxies we've played in, both were seeded with life.
 
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