It's about both ships the unmanned seeder ship and the second one to follow up and explore the worlds seeded by stargates for some unfinished experiment.
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It's about both ships the unmanned seeder ship and the second one to follow up and explore the worlds seeded by stargates for some unfinished experiment.
This is the big fresh idea? 
As other people have said - I just don't see what's new or interesting sounding about this. Unless they double the budget per episode, it's just going to be more of the same - because it's expensive to encounter new costumes, sets every week.
Let's have a sweep on this - I'm going for first renaissance fair village in episode 2 and a pine forest by episode 3. I'll say replicators by... 10.
As other people have said - I just don't see what's new or interesting sounding about this. Unless they double the budget per episode, it's just going to be more of the same - because it's expensive to encounter new costumes, sets every week.
Let's have a sweep on this - I'm going for first renaissance fair village in episode 2 and a pine forest by episode 3. I'll say replicators by... 10.
You are leaping to conclusions here. While Cooper and Wright are the creators of the series, we have no idea who will be on the writing staff (though, I wouldn't be surprised it some of the writers from Atlantis "gate" over to "Universe"). Plus, all indication suggests this series is a few years away.
No need to get the pitchforks out yet.
Knowing TPTB, this show will be on the air in a year. With the exact same tired, boring writers that have been with the show for 12 years.
To be fair some of the better writers of SG-1's early years left the show.
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According the original pitch upthread the Ancients were searching for life forms similar to their own pre-ascension so I think we can expect to see aliens, but I don't see the point of putting down stargates if they have FTL ships so I think there's things yet to be worked out.
Hmmm, I think they'll manage to resist the renaissance fair village until episode 3. The pine forest will definitely be episode 1 material though.
Replicators, who knows they may even last until the season (and series) finale
LOL! You think it'll take until episode 10? I mean they shoe-horned a replicator plot into Ark of Truth, I'm thinking we may see replicators as early as episode 2 or 3.
I do see a purpose of putting down a Stargate even with FTL drives. Stargate travel is instant, whereas FTL drives take days/weeks/months to get from certain points to another. Are Stargates "needed?" No, but they are a very very nice convenience. I think the better question is why FTL drives if you have Stargates? (of course the answer to that is: To go put Stargates on planets that don't have them.)
Of all the rehashed stories Stargate does the Replicators have to be the worst, easily and I loved them when they first started.
My favorite is they wanted to keep Atlantis and SG-1 separate, that's why we don't have ZATS and such, yet they brought the terrible human form reps over.
Stop with the Replicators, for real! Pleeeeeeassssssse!
My favorite is they wanted to keep Atlantis and SG-1 separate, that's why we don't have ZATS and such, yet they brought the terrible human form reps over.
Stop with the Replicators, for real! Pleeeeeeassssssse!
There has to be at least a mention of the Replicators and Wraith in the first ep. They have to explain why the Ancients abandoned the ship, Atlantis, and the Pegasus system. Hopefully, that will be the only mention of the Replicators and Wraith.
The thing is...new societies and groups need to be created for the team to encounter. If it's the same group of characters we've already been introduced to in SG1/SGA, then the Pegasus system is very small.
The thing is...new societies and groups need to be created for the team to encounter. If it's the same group of characters we've already been introduced to in SG1/SGA, then the Pegasus system is very small.
The write up of the show's premise stated that the 2 ships were probably sent out before Atlantis moved to Pegasus, so there's no need to incorporate call backs to the Reps or Wraith, as neither group would have been created yet. And the Reps evolved without the Ancients even knowing, believing them to have been destroyed...
Pegasus is a galaxy not a system and they know they to create some new menace for the show.
Hmmm, I think they'll manage to resist the renaissance fair village until episode 3. The pine forest will definitely be episode 1 material though.
Replicators, who knows they may even last until the season (and series) finale
Also the hut village set will show up two minutes into episode 1
Hmmm, I think they'll manage to resist the renaissance fair village until episode 3. The pine forest will definitely be episode 1 material though.
Replicators, who knows they may even last until the season (and series) finale
Also the hut village set will show up two minutes into episode 1
They spent $750,000 on that painted foam village, they need to use it.
The write up of the show's premise stated that the 2 ships were probably sent out before Atlantis moved to Pegasus, so there's no need to incorporate call backs to the Reps or Wraith, as neither group would have been created yet. And the Reps evolved without the Ancients even knowing, believing them to have been destroyed...
Fair enough, but we (the audience) know the Replicators were not destroyed. We know the Wraith are warring with Atlantis. I don't want either in the new show (or the new show for that matter), but to tie in the Gateverse, I can't see them ignoring them.
The write up of the show's premise stated that the 2 ships were probably sent out before Atlantis moved to Pegasus, so there's no need to incorporate call backs to the Reps or Wraith, as neither group would have been created yet. And the Reps evolved without the Ancients even knowing, believing them to have been destroyed...
Fair enough, but we (the audience) know the Replicators were not destroyed. We know the Wraith are warring with Atlantis. I don't want either in the new show (or the new show for that matter), but to tie in the Gateverse, I can't see them ignoring them.
If the ships took off before the Ancients ever went to Pegasus, then the Wraith don't exist yet. Even if they did they'd know nothing of the Ancients and couldn't be at war with them yet.
I'm thinking the villains will be like the Ori in the sense that they're no threat till we start dicking around
They were no threat till Vala and Daniel used that device that transmits your mind across the galaxy.
They were no threat till Vala and Daniel used that device that transmits your mind across the galaxy.
I'm really really hoping we don't get an evil empire to battle. Either don't have an ongoing arch-enemy, or have it be introduced slowly and subtly over a long period, like the Ancients were back in SG-1 (yeh, remember when the Ancients were mysterious and cool?! nous ani anquietus - I loved that.)
What would be awful to see fro the billionth time would be the up front super-hyper-ultra-mega-evil bad guy race who so ultimate in power we'll never defeat them, until we discover this BOHAW and win the whole war in one episode. A feature length episode if they're, you know, really evil. That's got tired. Pretty much got tired the 3rd time Apophis died. Do something else!
I really hope this show can overcome its slightly 'wtf?' premise to deliver a clever and original take on exploration, with a bit of mystery and a lot less Sam Carter.
What would be awful to see fro the billionth time would be the up front super-hyper-ultra-mega-evil bad guy race who so ultimate in power we'll never defeat them, until we discover this BOHAW and win the whole war in one episode. A feature length episode if they're, you know, really evil. That's got tired. Pretty much got tired the 3rd time Apophis died. Do something else!
I really hope this show can overcome its slightly 'wtf?' premise to deliver a clever and original take on exploration, with a bit of mystery and a lot less Sam Carter.
I suspect they'll appear, guns ablazing in the pilot, with all their card on the table, and they'll have to get significantly grater in numbers and more powerful as the show goes on until they're ludicrously powerful and undefeatable, requiring cringeworthy deus ex machina plots to get our heroes out of it.
The evil empire worked once, because the Goa'uld were a cool concept, and set up relatively well, even for all their moustache-twirling cartoony-ness.
The later Goa'uld got too powerful, but still were quite fun villains. The Ori, Replicators, and Wraith were horrible attempts to recapture the glory days of the Goa'uld. The new show needs to do something different with the antagonists - if you're going to have an overall bad guy race, do them subtly, tread softly early on, hint and bluff, don't just fold after one episode and reveal every tiny detail.
More than any other element, the bad guy will define how successful this show can be in my eye - interesting new direction or mindless clone?
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