Starfleet v. Wyck

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

I wonder when this happened.

Starfleet v. Wyck

Starfleet v. Wyck was a legal case known for being an example of the "fruit of the poisonous tree" concept. In 2259, this case was suggested to have similarities to the case against Una Chin-Riley, in that evidence had been obtained illegally. (SNW: "Ad Astra per Aspera")

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[Nerys Myk]

I wonder when this happened.

Starfleet v. Wyck

Starfleet v. Wyck was a legal case known for being an example of the "fruit of the poisonous tree" concept. In 2259, this case was suggested to have similarities to the case against Una Chin-Riley, in that evidence had been obtained illegally. (SNW: "Ad Astra per Aspera")

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They really shouldn't have killed his dog.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

We can surmise the following:

* Given that Starfleet is the plaintiff, it was probably also a court martial. (Less likely a lawsuit)
* Given that "civil rights lawyers" should definitely be familiar with it, it probably involves an issue of discrimination.
* Evidence was or was alleged to have been obtained illegally, which was probably Wyck's defense in the case.
* The name "Wyck" may indicate a Human, or an alien having taken on/with a Human-(sounding) name.
* Given that it hadn't already been compared to Una's case before it was brought up, it may not have been similar to her case in other ways.
* Given that La'an is familiar with it, it may involve Augments, and/or La'an herself may have been a witness in the case (or perhaps she remembers it from a law course), and/or know those who were involved.

Phew! It's amazing what you can infer from just a little dialogue.

 

[Nerys Myk]

A lot of aliens have human sounding names: Kira Nerys, Jadzia Dax, Spock, Odo, Chang, Kang, Mara, Quark...

 

[Tosk]

...Jennifer the Andorian, Ensign Barnes the Trill...

We can surmise the following

Yes, surmise is definitely the operative word here.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

A future screen(writer) who tackles this has/ought to consider everything that was said and make it fit the facts. Interesting exercise, if nothing else.

 

[Firebird]

A future screen(writer) who tackles this has/ought to consider everything that was said and make it fit the facts. Interesting exercise, if nothing else.

Unless it's to make a compelling story that has something to say, I don't want a memberberry just to have a memberberry.

 

[The Wormhole]

Unless it's to make a compelling story that has something to say, I don't want a memberberry just to have a memberberry.

I'm sure Terry Matalas is already polishing the shooting script for Starfleet v Wyck, a Star Trek Legacy episode.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

I was actually thinking more along the lines of

Spoiler: reference

an ENT-era novel.

 

[The Wormhole]

Star Trek novels are extremely rare these days, and there hasn't been an Enterprise era one since 2017.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

For the trial to be well-known enough among legal circles, I imagine it would have happened at least 50 years prior, possibly 100.

 

[Tosk]

For the trial to be well-known enough among legal circles, I imagine it would have happened at least 50 years prior, possibly 100.

I disagree with that logic. A case well-known among legal circles could be practically brand new too. Especially if Starfleet lost that case.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Well enough known for some to think most civil rights lawyers would know it, but not quite enough known for non-lawyers to be certain they've heard of it. Unless La'an was asking rhetorically.

 

[Tosk]

Well enough known for some to think most civil rights lawyers would know it

Well enough that when asked if she was aware of it Neera simply says, "I am a civil rights lawyer", shorthand as if to say 'Yes, obviously'.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Yes, for others to believe correctly something true about those with that particular career without being one yourself.

 

[Tosk]

Which of course says nothing about when Starfleet v Wyck took place. The only thing we know for sure is that it was some time between 2130-ish and 2259.

 

[WarpTenLizard]

A lot of aliens have human sounding names: Kira Nerys, Jadzia Dax, Spock, Odo, Chang, Kang, Mara, Quark...

And those are just the ones that are human names. Nearly all alien names on "Star Trek" have a general sound that's similar to Earth languages. Bajoran names usually sound Hebrew or Arabic; Klingon names tend to sound like either Asian or like something from Ancient Norse mythology; Ocampan names sound Latin or Greek; etc.