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Why the hate for Alex Kurtzman?
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NO.
Don't forget Autonous Driving AI that will kill the user.
There are entire class action lawsuits about how bad it is.
And several people have died from it.
Here's a statement from one of the employees within LMG (Linus Media Groups) who bought one & tried out the Auto-Pilot.
The owner of the Tesla stated that the FSD (Full Self Driving): "I tried it, it nearly killed me twice, I'm never using it again"
ROFLMAO
Let's get this out of the way and dispense with it quickly.
I didn't like Section 31, in fact I gave it a 3. So, I'm no defender of it. No, mods, I won't be spoiling it either, don't worry. I'm not here to talk about that. I'm here to answer this very specific question.
I'm not spoiling anything by saying I can definitely say that NO, Garret today would NOT say such a stupid line. I'm not spoiling anything with this answer. That's all I intend to say about this.
Over and out.
Especially Galactica. Can you imagine a Trek show with writers like Ron Moore, Michael Taylor, David Weddle, and Bradley Thompson? That would've been awesome.
Anyway, we've hit the point where I feel about Kurtzman Trek in 2025 the same way I felt about Berman Trek in 2000. It'll continue on, but I'm ready to put it behind me. To be revisited again at some point in the future.
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Tell me you're being sarcastic ...
I'm just going to point out that I didn't list Carla Robinson, Seamus Kevin Fahey, Mark Verheiden, Michael Angeli, etc. and let you make your own guess.
I also didn't list Anne Cofell Saunders, the Galactica season 3 story editor who was a writer/producer on Discovery seasons 3-4.
it's not great but it's still better than insurrection.
That’s something. Not much. But something.
Just because people wrote for Trek in the past doesn't mean they are suitable to showrun it. Bryan Fuller is testament to that. Galactica was designed by Moore to be the anti-trek from the beginning because of his negative experiences writing Star Trek, in particular for Voyager. If Ron Moore was put in charge of a Star Trek series today, you would get something that would be considered 'not star trek'
It really suffers from being a series shoehorned into a 90 minute movie. There's a lot of potential there that gets glossed over because the movie literally doesn't have the time to spend on it. But the performances are good and the characters left me wanting to see more of them. I think had it been a series, it would not have gotten the intense backlash it has.
Setting aside my tongue-in-cheek comment where I was literally just listing Deep Space Nine writers, you're absolutely correct. I love Moore's work on Trek, but I suspect if he came back to it I'd be put off by the level of grittiness he puts in many of his other shows since then, which is something that he was held back from doing in Trek.
Not that I'm opposed to him coming back and seeing what happens, but even if I did end up loving it I'm sure there would be many others throwing fits about it, just as you say. For some people "real Trek" is only whatever they saw 20 years ago and maybe whichever fan films hit their nostalgia the right way.
I don’t understand why we can’t view the position of a showrunner more in the context of success. When Kurtzman first took the helm, most of us likely supported him. The franchise needed a fresh start, and many were on board with that. However, he never really delivered—almost every piece of Trek content he oversaw in the last decade has been, at best, a mixed bag.
There’s an interesting video of Kurtzman discussing the reasons why Section 31 turned out the way it did. He cites the writers’ strike, the pandemic, and, at least subconsciously, Michelle Yeoh winning an Oscar as factors.
In the video, Kurtzman makes it abundantly clear that Sweeney was the one who came up with the backstory for Section 31. He’s actively playing the blame game, likely because he knew how poorly the movie would be received.
When a showrunner feels so compelled to distance themselves from their creative team, it’s hard to believe they have the franchise’s best interests at heart. Instead, it seems they’re focused on finding the next best way to save face. I don’t blame him for that—it’s what many people with high incomes do when they feel their position is under threat.
However, this approach doesn’t help Star Trek attract a wider audience or provide a compelling reason for the franchise to remain relevant in the years to come.
There’s no need to hate Kurtzman—vote with your feet, stay vocal, and this chapter of Star Trek will likely come to an end sooner than a microbe fleeing from a Vulcan robot’s body.
There’s an interesting video of Kurtzman discussing the reasons why Section 31 turned out the way it did. He cites the writers’ strike, the pandemic, and, at least subconsciously, Michelle Yeoh winning an Oscar as factors.
In the video, Kurtzman makes it abundantly clear that Sweeney was the one who came up with the backstory for Section 31. He’s actively playing the blame game, likely because he knew how poorly the movie would be received.
When a showrunner feels so compelled to distance themselves from their creative team, it’s hard to believe they have the franchise’s best interests at heart. Instead, it seems they’re focused on finding the next best way to save face. I don’t blame him for that—it’s what many people with high incomes do when they feel their position is under threat.
However, this approach doesn’t help Star Trek attract a wider audience or provide a compelling reason for the franchise to remain relevant in the years to come.
There’s no need to hate Kurtzman—vote with your feet, stay vocal, and this chapter of Star Trek will likely come to an end sooner than a microbe fleeing from a Vulcan robot’s body.
The flaw with your premise is that Kurtzman is not a showrunner, he's a chief executive.
What's YOUR ideal Trek? What do YOU want to see?
You've sat here trashing Alex Kurtzman. If there's something wrong with Trek, how would YOU fix it?
So much of this. His posts are like an old vinyl record that skips on the turntable. Give us something new, man!
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