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Is it worth watching Disc?

With an “e”, it becomes canine. Which is the joke. Just a simple joke.

Making fun of my spelling error. If I had spelled "canine"it would have made sense. But I didnt spell canine. He just doesnt like my opinion so hes picking on me for no reason.
 
My wife and I gave up after season three. We didn't like Michael and the new storyline.

Yeah. She started out getting court martialed and for all intents and purposes should have been drummed out of star fleet. Later everyone compliments her all the time like shes the greatest captain ever. She knocked out her captain unconscious. How is that even forgiven?
 
The canon is simply the body of work. How well one piece of it seems to fit together with the other pieces or not has no bearing on its canonicity. That's more a matter of continuity.

I think it's kind of a joke to be using a lofty literary/religious word like "canon" with ephemeral pop culture in the first place, anyway.

Kor
 
The canon is simply the body of work. How well one piece of it seems to fit together with the other pieces or not has no bearing on its canonicity. That's more a matter of continuity.

I think it's kind of a joke to be using a lofty literary/religious word like "canon" with ephemeral pop culture in the first place, anyway.

Kor

Well to put it simply nothing fits anynore. Anyone unfamilar with star trek watching STD , SNW and TOS chronologically from stardate or in story earth year would not see them flow as a natural story or even seem in the same decade. It was poorly done.
 
The canon is simply the body of work. How well one piece of it seems to fit together with the other pieces or not has no bearing on its canonicity. That's more a matter of continuity.

I think it's kind of a joke to be using a lofty literary/religious word like "canon" with ephemeral pop culture in the first place, anyway.

Kor
It is a huge joke. I have an easier time debating with religious people than some Trek circles at times.
 
It is a huge joke. I have an easier time debating with religious people than some Trek circles at times.

No joke. Its just opinions. It is what it is. If they make it an alternate reality for sure one day it will be a lot better for the new shows and what came before. Nothing wrong with having two universe tv treks.
 
Well to put it simply nothing fits anynore. Anyone unfamilar with star trek watching STD , SNW and TOS chronologically from stardate or in story earth year would not see them flow as a natural story or even seem in the same decade. It was poorly done.
What is it about all three that doesn't allow them to flow, in your opinion?

DIS to SNW seems to flow quite well, as the actors help there. I think that SNW to TOS can be made to work if the will is there behind the scenes.
 
What is it about all three that doesn't allow them to flow, in your opinion?

DIS to SNW seems to flow quite well, as the actors help there. I think that SNW to TOS can be made to work if the will is there behind the scenes.
Discovery to SNW flows to TMP better than TMP did from TOS. Everything else was just papered over by fans and their timelines.
 
The visual continuity of Star Trek is a wholly different thing from story continuity. I can accept Enterprise looking like it does before going to Disco, SNW, and TOS, and have no issues with them being in the same timeline.

Anything beyond that is whiny complaints that don't matter.

Yeah. She started out getting court martialed and for all intents and purposes should have been drummed out of star fleet. Later everyone compliments her all the time like shes the greatest captain ever. She knocked out her captain unconscious. How is that even forgiven?
Burnham was drummed out of the service and was incarcerated following her conviction. She was essentially serving an equivalent term in prison to a soldier in the US Army at Leavenworth convicted of a similar crime. You commit the crime while part of the service, you serve your time in a military prison.
 
Discovery to SNW flows to TMP better than TMP did from TOS. Everything else was just papered over by fans and their timelines.
You mean in a visual sense? I don't quite know the ending of SNW, although I can attempt to guess, but you probably need TOS(maybe TAS too) to give the audience an idea of who the TMP characters are. The movies lacked a lot of decent character moments, beyond the great trio, of course
 
You mean in a visual sense? I don't quite know the ending of SNW, although I can attempt to guess, but you probably need TOS(maybe TAS too) to give the audience an idea of who the TMP characters are. The movies lacked a lot of decent character moments, beyond the great trio, of course
Visual and story sense.
 
No joke. Its just opinions. It is what it is. If they make it an alternate reality for sure one day it will be a lot better for the new shows and what came before. Nothing wrong with having two universe tv treks.
Better how?


Abrams took gruff for technology being wrong even though it was an alternate timeline. Nothing will improve.
 
What is it about all three that doesn't allow them to flow, in your opinion?

DIS to SNW seems to flow quite well, as the actors help there. I think that SNW to TOS can be made to work if the will is there behind the scenes.

SNW to TOS might be but they need to tighten character backgrounds and stories more. The visual is closer than STDs. I hope they get the look of the enterprise closer to TOS by series end. They can givevus thensane dimensions etc but they can tweak the TOS look by making the drywalls look shiny porcelain and add animations to the screens as well as getting rid of the window.
 
SNW to TOS might be but they need to tighten character backgrounds and stories more. The visual is closer than STDs. I hope they get the look of the enterprise closer to TOS by series end. They can givevus thensane dimensions etc but they can tweak the TOS look by making the drywalls look shiny porcelain and add animations to the screens as well as getting rid of the window.
They might make some TOS-style changes here and there, since its getting close to the 60th. Its certainly not impossible. Continuity/canon suggests that there needs to be an interior overhaul for the increased crew size. I'm guessing Kirk won't want a kitchen...

The trouble is, the show may not last long enough to reach TOS anyway. Not without some kind of time jump.
 
They might make some TOS-style changes here and there, since its getting close to the 60th. Its certainly not impossible. Continuity/canon suggests that there needs to be an interior overhaul for the increased crew size. I'm guessing Kirk won't want a kitchen...

The trouble is, the show may not last long enough to reach TOS anyway. Not without some kind of time jump.

It might not. Paramount isnt great about keeping a lot of their shows past season 4 or 5.
 
Well to put it simply nothing fits anynore. Anyone unfamilar with star trek watching STD , SNW and TOS chronologically from stardate or in story earth year would not see them flow as a natural story or even seem in the same decade. It was poorly done.
So long as they understand they're watching television shows made across half a century, I'm sure they'll be okay.

It's only when you want it to be a perfectly fit together intricate saga that it falls apart, when it's really just entertainment. Voyager could have gotten home in a week at TOS warp 8.4, but because the uniforms and graphics are correct, nobody cares that it doesn't possibly fit into the same world.
 
STD and SNW just dont meld will with TOS or the Berman era shows.
Been a Trek fan for most of my 40 years on this Earth. I started with TOS and adore it to this day. Not a week goes by that I don't watch at least a couple episodes.

With that said, I can perfectly accept that there's been a visual reboot. I don't expect them to make a show produced in the 2020's look like a show from the 60's.

I've said it many times before..... Star Trek is NOT a period piece.
At times SNW feels like its more advanced than TNG.
When?
Beyond that tons of other canon violations.
Such as?
Anyone unfamilar with star trek watching STD , SNW and TOS chronologically from stardate or in story earth year would not see them flow as a natural story or even seem in the same decade.
I think most people in the general population can accept that a show made today isn't going to look line a show produced in the 60's.

Audiences are smarter than you think.

Anyone with a basic knowledge of Trek could look at the uniforms and the ship and probably understand what they're going for, at least with SNW. It's only the hardcore Trek nerds who take issue with things as minor as the ship having slanted nacelle pylons, added lights or... *gasp* a bridge window!
 
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