Is it worth watching Disc?

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I've been reluctant to watch Discovery since... well, since I was made aware of its existence. I've heard some pretty bad things about it, but I've also heard people only hate it because it's new. I've recently been considering giving it a try, though. Is it actually any good/worth watching?
 
I've been reluctant to watch Discovery since... well, since I was made aware of its existence. I've heard some pretty bad things about it, but I've also heard people only hate it because it's new. I've recently been considering giving it a try, though. Is it actually any good/worth watching?

Great cast, plenty of money, dodgy writing.

I'm not a fan. But you should try the pilot episode, if you're a Star Trek fan. Nothing to really lose.
 
I enjoyed seasons one, two and three. Although all three are seasons with very different identities.

As I always say, no expectations, no disappointments. You might love it. You might not.
 
It grew on me. I had a lot of issues with set design, the nu-Klingon look and the spore drive early on. Storywise I thought it was fine. It has gotten better as the series wore on. Each season is largely it's own distinct storyline, though it does build off previous seasons of course.

I'd give it at least through season 3 before giving up on it. I think it has gotten better as the seasons wore on. If you keep an open mind you may find you like it. I admit that was hard for me because I'm a bit of a continuity junkie. In theory this is still the prime universe but there are things that are hard to reconcile (like the spore drive) with the existing continuity. And I'm a big novel reader and had been reading the ongoing stories of the relaunch novels, and the current series totally upended all those storylines (particularly Picard). That was a bit hard for me to swallow. But I tried to treat it as it's own entity, and almost like a reimagining, if not a full on reboot (even if officially it is not considered a reboot). Once I changed my perspective I was able to focus more on the show, and not as much on the inconsistencies.
 
I like Seasons 1-2 and Seasons 3-5 for different reasons. Of course I think it's worth watching. I received the Complete Series Blu-Ray Set today. But that's just me.

I agree with everyone else: watch for yourself. If you find yourself not liking Season 1, skip to another season.

Oftentimes people who give the series a chance will say, "Wait a minute. Was I supposed to hate this?," and are surprised when they don't.
 
It's definitely not something you can just write off as being all bad and totally skippable. But being a fan of the earlier series doesn't necessarily mean you'll enjoy this one as well.

If continuity and world building is something you care about, the Klingons are radically different, familiar things look a bit unfamiliar, and feels a bit like it's from a parallel universe. It does connect better in the second half, but despite its political plotlines, it never really fleshes out its own world particularly well.

If you like the vibe of the 90s shows, Discovery doesn't have it, but it does have its heart in the same place. Sometimes it's all darkness and violence, sometimes it's hugs and people discussing their trauma, but philosophically it's Star Trek.

If you like TV to be fairly grounded and realistic, Discovery might not be your thing. Despite how seriously it presents itself, it's kind of campy and ridiculous with how everything in the universe seems to revolve around the main character. Characters talk about science a lot, but problems are solved with emotions and sometimes well-choreographed fight scenes.

If you're into episodic TV, where any episode could be a goofy story about characters getting turned into children, it's not really that. It's pretty serialised, with every season about one situation that needs sorting out. Though there are some good characters in there and they do get their moments. Not the bridge crew though, they're just there to say a few lines to move the plot forward and this will never change.

Despite being cancelled it does have an ending and it does pretty much wrap everything up. Though you'll have to watch some of the Short Treks between season 1 and 2 to get the complete picture.
 
I've been reluctant to watch Discovery since... well, since I was made aware of its existence. I've heard some pretty bad things about it, but I've also heard people only hate it because it's new. I've recently been considering giving it a try, though. Is it actually any good/worth watching?
If you were serious about watching it, you'd have gone ahead and done so rather than asking the internet to make the decision for you.
 
I don't want to say no, but...

Look, I'll say this. I don't think it's worthy to be mainline canon. But as a sidepiece to Strange New Worlds? Meh, yeah it's fine. I think if you're more of a Kelvin timeline fan then you'll find the transition to Discovery a lot easier. I feel like everyone involved in the show really did try and it achieved some level of competency. It's not a She-Hulk or Acolyte situation, despite what some fans say. Season Two REALLY benefited from the addition of Pike. And the last two seasons the writers really tried to lean in hard on Trek's "evolved" vision of humanity. Which, as ham fisted as it was, I do respect that they were listening to fans and trying to be true to the vision. I personally thought the characters were fine, I think they got Michaels character right in the end. So I didn't have a problem there. Some people didn't like Tilly, but I kind of did. And I thought finally seeing the Unification storyline played out onscreen was pretty nice and a small reward for fans. But you will have to get over some hurdles like the ship's magic drive powered by mold.
 
But you will have to get over some hurdles like the ship's magic drive powered by mold.

That was always one of my bugaboos. The spore drive is really an amazing peace of technology that didn't belong 10 years prior to Kirk. A drive that can instantaneously transport you to anywhere basically (or at least a lot faster than traditional warp drive). Why on Earth would Starfleet abandon that kind of technology. Even transwarp or slipstream pales in comparison. They tried to include that it was damaging the multi-verse or something--though that little weakness was conveniently forgotten in later seasons. But even still, you would think Starfleet would continue to work on it to make it safer. Instantaneous travel to anywhere in the Federation? Does anyone really think Starfleet would just say forgetaboutit? And as Gul Dukat noted at the start of the Dominion war, never underestimate the Federations' ingenuity with figuring things out.

I really think the writers would have benefitted more if they made Discovery and even SNW an all out reboot. Or say it's another parallel timeline if they didn't want to completely separate from the prime timeline like the Abrams movies did. They insisted on cramming it into the prime timeline where a lot of it just doesn't fit all that well. And I liked Discovery. I just never felt like it belonged in the mid 23rd century of the original timeline. At least when they moved it ahead to the 32nd century they stopped having to worry about fitting a square peg in a round hole.

If continuity and world building is something you care about, the Klingons are radically different, familiar things look a bit unfamiliar, and feels a bit like it's from a parallel universe. It does connect better in the second half, but despite its political plotlines, it never really fleshes out its own world particularly well.

Whatever the writers' intent I found when I started viewing the show as a reboot, instead of trying to make it all fit, I was able to enjoy the show more and let some of that other stuff go. No matter how you slice it, some of it, particularly the first 2 seasons, really is like trying to cram in a square peg in a round hole. It just doesn't fit all that well. Ditto for SNW. SNW is probably my favorite of the current shows. But I found I was able to enjoy that show more when I stopped trying to imagine it as part of the prime universe, and just treat it as its own thing in some parallel reimaging and a few links to the prime timeline.
 
I am not a fan (I watched the first three seasons and gave up hoping it would improve).

BUT asking strangers whether you should watch something isn't very effective. In general, the people who like the programme will say "yes" and the people who don't, "no". We have no idea what you like and don't like so can't give you personalised advice.

Two better ways:
Read the threads on each season. Just the first few pages. If you know what you like in Trek (and entertainment in general) that will give you enough information to make a decision for yourself; or,
Find reviewers or a podcast who appear to think the same way as you do about the things you like (they don't have to like the same things as you, just make the same kinds of comments and ask the same kinds of questions as you do). What they think of Discovery will be helpful.
 
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