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News Star Trek: Section 31 Movie with Michelle Yeoh Announced!

Please. You complain now, but we all know that if the credits included the term "Written By Terry Matalas" you and everyone else critical of the Section 31 movie would suddenly fall madly in love with it.
I don't know where these obsessive Terry Matalas worshippers you talk about like to hang out, but it doesn't seem to be here as I've never seen anything like this kind of fanaticism.
 
I don't know where these obsessive Terry Matalas worshippers you talk about like to hang out, but it doesn't seem to be here as I've never seen anything like this kind of fanaticism.
Well i've proposed, and I think he might say yes. :adore:
This is a joke, in case people think im serious. I just cant seem to work up the courage...;)
Craig Sweeny wrote SECTION 31. He has a great deal of CV overlap with Berman-era veterans Ira Steven Behr, Rene Echevarria, Robert Hewitt Wolfe, and Robert Doherty through THE 4400, ELEMENTARY, and MEDIUM. He likely was recruited by Bryan Fuller to be part of the original DISCOVERY writing staff.

Sweeny probably was noted to death over S31, but because he's involved, I'm willing to give it a chance despite the iffy promotional material. I can always turn it off.
It appears he wrote the teleplay for Context is for Kings too. Cool, thats another plus as far as im concerned.
 
SECTION 31 had an "intimacy coordinator"
All that tells me is that there will be a "Sex Scene" in the movie and that they need a "Intimacy Coordinator" to help guide it and make sure everything is kosher amongst all parties involved and how to get the most out of the "Sex Scene" that delivers what the director wants.
 
Previous posts have indicated Phily to be a Matalite who belies Picard S3 to be the greatest thing since sliced bread and a belief that the True Fans deserve Legacy. I stand by my previous post.
No. I disagree with Philly B about Section 31, possibly in the extreme, but his opinion comes from an honest place. I don't think who's writing would change his opinion about Section 31 or Georgiou.

I had a chance to call him out on something a few years ago, it was something else, and after some back-and-forth I could see his line of reasoning even though I still didn't agree with him about it.

October 11th, 2021

I disagree with a lot of what he says, but I know that his opinions are his own.
 
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All that tells me is that there will be a "Sex Scene" in the movie and that they need a "Intimacy Coordinator" to help guide it and make sure everything is kosher amongst all parties involved and how to get the most out of the "Sex Scene" that delivers what the director wants.
It doesn't necessarily have to be a sex scene, just a scene with physical intimacy. If that's why you used quotation marks, then I apologize and please ignore my post. ;)
 
And what should it be? Who sets the rules? Who gets to decide what Star Trek is and isn't?

And who says it is propaganda? It's a TV show.


Seems like an awful amount of rules are being tossed around for a TV show. :shrug:

Franchise kinda builds its own rules, as it goes. Section 31 is going to come and go, but I’m not sure it is a good thing for a franchise that has often patted itself on its own back for being a positive portrayal of the future.
 
Mirror Georgiou is basically a female Space Hitler who eats other sentient beings. Not sure how that even became a character arc worth redemption in DSC, but they went there. I'll go along for the ride but the writing for this needs to be better than most of the stuff she was given in DSC.
 
The 'Cheron' guy's face is black on his right side but his right shoulder is white. So maybe he's not a Cheron but his face is obscured for some other reason.
 
Franchise kinda builds its own rules, as it goes. Section 31 is going to come and go, but I’m not sure it is a good thing for a franchise that has often patted itself on its own back for being a positive portrayal of the future.
Paradise protests too much for a lot of Star Trek.

Mirror Georgiou is basically a female Space Hitler who eats other sentient beings. Not sure how that even became a character arc worth redemption in DSC, but they went there. I'll go along for the ride but the writing for this needs to be better than most of the stuff she was given in DSC.
The very flower of humanity; humanity is filled absolutely irredeemable people yet Trek believes humanity can evolve despite its depravity.
 
Paradise protests too much for a lot of Star Trek.

Star Trek is Star Trek. This is the antithesis of what Star Trek is supposed to be.

What I used to watch Star Trek for, is now being filled in by Superman. And, that hurts. Star Trek, for me, was about a better world. Now we just get Legion of Doom leftovers.
 
Star Trek is Star Trek. This is the antithesis of what Star Trek is supposed to be.

What I used to watch Star Trek for, is now being filled in by Superman. And, that hurts. Star Trek, for me, was about a better world. Now we just get Legion of Doom leftovers.
Star Trek was not always a perfect world. To me, this is showing Mudd's or other less savory parts of Trek that exist but either ignored or glossed over.


Though, I'm not particular about what Trek is supposed to be. To me, it's an action adventure series that assumes that humanity will survive and maybe get better. And Georgiou shows that possibility but even if she doesn't how many deeply flawed people did we see in Trek?

Daystrom?

Gill?

Servus?

Garth?

Stocker?

Better doesn't mean everyone is better.
 
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I don't know where these obsessive Terry Matalas worshippers you talk about like to hang out, but it doesn't seem to be here as I've never seen anything like this kind of fanaticism.
The only obsessive cult-like behavior here is the half dozen or so people who have taken the creepy "cult of Terry Matalas" bit too far, falling into the gravitational well of a snarky post-ironic singularity. But yeah, people like studio presidents Steve Asbell and Kevin Feige, along with longstanding Star Trek analysts like the Inglorious Treksperts are all clueless cult adepts of Lord Terry, amiright? Queue up the clapter...
 
It also doesn't mean the good guys should give aid and comfort to a genocidal monster.
You and I won't ever agree on this point. I don't think Georgiou had the moral education as our prime universe nor do I think Trek poists a universalist mortality.

I believe strongly that humans can become better but need to be shown a better way. The MU doesn't have the better way; how else is Georgiou to learn?
 
SECTION 31 had an "intimacy coordinator"
Lots of shows and films have those. :shrug:

You'd be surprised at how sex scenes have to be so tightly choreographed. They really do have people whose job is to coordinate that sort of thing. They don't just roll the camera and let the actors go at it, these scenes really do have a lot of planning involved.

In fact I'd hazard a guess that it's actually very UN-romantic on the set even when it's the hottest love scene you can imagine. :lol:

The 'Cheron' guy's face is black on his right side but his right shoulder is white. So maybe he's not a Cheron but his face is obscured for some other reason.
Well to be fair we never saw anything of Bele and Lokai other than their faces. So who knows what the rest of a Cheron's body looks like.
 
Which doesn't track, as we see plenty of better people in the Mirror Universe.
Exactly. Like Captain Maximilian Forrest, for example (In a Mirror, Darkly). He stayed behind and sacrificed himself so his crew could get away. In the end, he was as heroic and selfless as the Admiral, his Prime counterpart.

And also Smiley O'Brien. He's a good man, just like Miles. So that concept definitely is not dead.
 
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