I didn't see that, but Hunter absolutely deserved her award for The Piano.
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I didn't see that, but Hunter absolutely deserved her award for The Piano.
See also Sir Alec Guiness and Star Wars.
Or Harrison Ford and The Force Awakens.
I hope it's more than that. She's a well-regarded actress who should be able to get parts just by returning a couple of phone calls. Series television doesn't have the reputation of paying great salaries like movies can.
Lucas was wise to cast Guiness in the one part in Star Wars that absolutely needed a veteran actor to sell the part or the whole movie would fall apart into a joke.
But on the other hand see Fred Astaire in The Towering Inferno - a forgettable part in a forgettable movie, that's just a sad end to an actor's career.
Interesting tidbit from the Variety article:
“Starfleet Academy” will begin shooting in Toronto later this summer, featuring the largest contiguous set ever constructed for a “Star Trek” series, a central academic atrium that will span two stories and include an amphitheater, classrooms, a mess hall, and a idyllic walkway lined with trees.
“Starfleet Academy” will begin shooting in Toronto later this summer, featuring the largest contiguous set ever constructed for a “Star Trek” series, a central academic atrium that will span two stories and include an amphitheater, classrooms, a mess hall, and a idyllic walkway lined with trees.
As optimistic as I'd like to be, I can't see a crewed mission to Europa happening this year.
Surely Trek history had its For All Mankind moment a long time ago.?
1968 shown in Assignment Earth was arguably the same as in real Earth, but Space Seed was stretching with the genetic supermen being born around the time the episode was aired -- its premise relied on either major genetic modification (way beyond real history) or generations of selective breeding (thus going back into the 19th and 18th centuries in secret)
There was concept art for the 2009 movie where the academy was on a big floating island, and with Discovery's 32nd century just loving randomly floating things I can definitely see it making a comeback.
They could absolutely get away with it in 60s, which was arguably the only era of Star Trek that could do that. Even down to the launching of the interstellar NOMAD probe in 2002 (also shown in Picard season 2, as a model), having futuristic stuff mere decades into the future was still quite plausible.
It's why I've always maintained a "one universe across" approach to Trek. It's not our world, but very close.
One of the biggest mistakes the current era of shows has made is regularly trying to make STAR TREK history match our own. I especially don't like the reasoning behind it... basically, that it is to help give the audience something to aspire to. What, the audience is incapable of being inspired unless it matches our own world's history? That kind of dismissing and insulting the intelligence of the audience has never sat well with me since Kurtzman did that interview.
I'm happy for you. People will certainly have different experiences.
I don't do that. I try to avoid that as much as possible. It's others who start doing that. I follow whatever Paramount says is canon, which tends to start the fires. I try to reconcile the fact that SNW exists and also TOS exists, as per Paramount. It's kind of the opposite, I have to constantly remind people that TOS IS canon and DOES happen.
It's also not that serious, no. We are on a Star Trek forum. This is an appropriate place to talk about these kind of things.
That was in direct response to fireproof 78's comment. I agree with you 100%.
I'll accept that as fair.
What I can't accept is them telling me that TOS happened, exactly as is, while being contradictory and saying "Well, yes, but actually no..." I just want them to make up their minds. It happened or it didn't. "updating the visual style" means... it didn't happen.
I disagree, but that's ok.
My eyes tell me that is incorrect. I understand that is where the disconnect is. They're good enough on lore details and what not. In that regard, the continuity is roughly the same as it was in the previous series. I consider visual continuity to be every single bit as important as dialogue continuity, which the new series do absolutely abysmally.
That may not be important to you. That's ok you do you. It's important to me.
Again that was in response to fireproof78, suggesting I can just ignore what I don't like and canon doesn't matter.
There are multiple perspectives at play here.
Really though, isn't the gauge for basically all media? I want to consume media that I enjoy. I don't want to consume media that I do not enjoy. I think I have every right to be upset that something I generally do enjoy is not up to my standards and impacting my enjoyment of it.
You can like whatever you want. That's cool. I'm offering a perspective of what make it more enjoyable for me.
Although I do think there is a bit of extremism there, a bit too black and white with no gray area. Yes I largely do find Discovery to be crap... that goes beyond aesthetic issues I have with it. I feel that the writing and characters are by and large terrible. I don't feel the same way about SNW, which still shares many of the aesthetic issues of Discovery. I generally like SNW and think it's a well produced show. I just also have criticisms. It's ok to go tribal and "pick a side". One can have mixed feelings about things. (PIC, LDS and PRO are by and large fantastic... so really the track record of nuTrek is actually pretty good... 3 Excellent shows, 1 ok show, and 1 dud.)
That's a lot sooner than I thought it would be. We're talking about a max of maybe four months until shooting starts.
I have to think the remainder of the cast has been chosen already, and they just wanted to announce the lead first. If not, I'd think we're looking at weeks at most until the main cast is finalized.
But it always tries to connect back to our history. The Voyage Home is arguably our San Francisco in the 80s. Voyager visits our LA in the 90s.
If it's made the separation it's not clear.
I genuinely can't disagree with the idea that they've tried to make it look as if it's our world on several occasions, The Voyage Home especially. Its just the minutiae that sets it apart, and the fans tend to pick up on it.
But even the minutiae gets moved,, like the Eugenics Wars/WW3. TNG adjusted it to the 21st century and added a post atomic horror.
If it tries to be distinct it doesn't last long. It tries hard not to be a separate timeline but connect back to our history, and present as our future. Meaning it tries to update a 60s era future projection of technology to align with a contemporary understanding.
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