LOL.
Took me a second there.
"Yes, trust me, the results when you have something else in the matrix with you, it's not pretty. And I'd hate to have to start calling you Captain Burnhamfly."
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x03 - "Jinaal"
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LOL.
Took me a second there.
"Yes, trust me, the results when you have something else in the matrix with you, it's not pretty. And I'd hate to have to start calling you Captain Burnhamfly."
The crew thought it very bad taste that Burnham continued to order "let's fly" after ensign Goldblum's unfortunate transporter accident.
Incidentally, Time Soldier Yor originally looked exactly like Jeff Goldblum.
That it can be reproduced and used at all is all that's required to negate the narrative uniqueness of the Progenitor technology that does the same thing.
Because neither we, nor the Starfleet people, have any reason to believe the Progenitor technology is any more effective than genesis. Instead in universe they're ignoring that technology exists which can do the same thing. And treating it like some super unique thing that nobody can be allowed to get their hands on.
Episode: "The Federation of the Dominion War period couldn't be trusted with this technology!"
Reality: "The Federation already had stuff that could do the same thing, so what risk was there?"
Episode: "Just trust me! Someone died trying to activate it!"
Reality: "The death rate for people who just try to randomly activate unknown alien technology is horrifying enough that there are actual regulations saying 'don't'.
Episode: "Trust me!"
Show don't tell is a thing for a reason, and if they actually wanted to properly establish this technology as the type of threat they're trying to pretend it is, well, they should have pulled a Genesis Wave and opened the season by showing us the technology reformatting a couple dozen solar systems or something.
I mean, I would welcome that, but galaxy altering and life changing tech is not exactly new to Star Trek. The Genesis device was never used at a larger scale, and couldn't be because the guy who had it down died. So, whatever modifications after the fact didn't make it safer.
I'll wait and see before I go "Eh, seen it before."
It was an okay episode. I see we're going through the typical Discovery pacing where the best parts are the beginning and end of the story-line, and the middle is a bit...well middling. I hope we see some Tzenkethi in person next week.
If we do see any Tzenkethi, I'm hoping they're ALIEN alien, like arthropods or something.
If you had said that a year ago it would be true.
But since then we have found out that the tech apparently was advanced and made safer.
How so? A one time use by Ferengi doesn't inspire any degree of confidence.
Bingo! And indeed Rayner thought he had beat Tilly to the punch on an update about their location, but Tilly said Zora had already told her that.
I didn't mind him wanting to look through the data while meeting the crew. But the 20 word thing and the attitude just weren't going to create a good working environment built on mutual trust and respect. Tilly did put him into his place on that point at the end though.
It was smaller, had an integrated control panel, and actually created a stable planet out of a nebula.
And while you can continue to doubt all you want, that runs counter to what we were actually shown on screen.
I'll admit I'm a bit worried about that. They have run out of story mid-season before. Hopefully history isn't repeating itself this year.
I'll hope for the best though!
Show it to me again and I'll consider it a success. Until then, skepticism is extremely high.
That's my biggest concern as well. I'm not interested in a ten-hour Indiana Jones movie. If this last episode is their idea of thrilling, I'm very VERY worried.
Correct me if I'm wrong. but isn't the Genesis Device used for terraforming. I don't recall the Progenitors being into that.
Well, if I was trying to hide something, I would probably be looking into places where transporters didn't work.
Yes, but the implications (especially in Wrath of Khan) is that it had other potential "applications," which is part of the reason Carol Marcus was so adamant that it NOT be used in a place where there was even a hint of life. And that's part of the reason why McCoy is horrified by the idea, since if you were to use it where life already existed it would (in Spock's words) "destroy such life in favor of its new matrix" as a weapon.
The description of how it works in the presentation spells out that it can reorder matter at the molecular level. So, in theory, it should be able to create animal life just as much as it does flora if you programmed it with the specifics.
Also, given that it re-animated Spock's body and does something to the microbes on Spock's torpedo tube that turns them into predatory worms, that seems to indicate it was capable of generating animal forms too.
Yes, but the wave has unusual regenerative effect, seemingly speeding up aging, both of the planet and life on it.
It's unpredictability would be a strike against it.
The question is whether he's really doing something useful there, or not. My impression is that the authorial intent is that he was not. I don't know how to prove it one way or the other.
Sounds a bit uncontrollable. I don't think Spock 2.0 and predatory worms were part of the programing.
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